[Music] um I want to go kind of rewind just a little bit with you um talk to me about the opening minutes of like moments of like walking into the anonymous household what was kind of going through your mind and what was that Vibe like for you well walking in I was I I was pretty nervous actually and I don't I don't know if that really came off or if it just came off of me like being a jerk I'm I'm not too sure um but I was really nervous I was like kind of quiet and everything and um I didn't really want to be you know too much and whatnot um so yeah I was I was really really really nervous walking in yeah all right we kind of sit down we're playing the game on two sides of the fence which I thought was fasinating it's like nothing we've really ever seen before but for me what I thought was the interesting idea of picking the shark as your digital handle take us behind looking through those and figuring out that was going to be your handle okay so I figured it out because um my wife her nephew so my nephew as well he loves sharks he loves sharks a lot and it was close enough to me that it meant something but far enough away that I knew like it really doesn't matter so it really didn't have anything to do with like being like a hard ass or like something like that or like Oh I'm a shark I'm G like get or something like that but uh yeah it was just something where it was it was close enough to home but far enough away that know it it still it still hit if it was a well you know I love Wells have a tattoo of a whale I knew it would come out so and it was also like an aquatic maybe also like critic is like fishing he's like in an ocean or like he said he was um I don't know that I ever believe that but I do now um so maybe it could be like him and everything too I just shark wasn't really like my personality and whatnot either but mostly was um for my wife's nephew um Jackson I love that um all right so when we're sitting in Anonymous mode it's quite uh I don't know the [ __ ] stirring you know what I mean like everybody just kind of stir the pot what I want to know is when when the anonymous chat kind of closes what's the atmosphere like in the house afterwards because it gets a little feisty in those chats yeah I think we all know it's going to be pretty feisty everything and I I was never like come for in the chat so I kind of usually walked out like okay you know sounds good no one you know really said anything about me you know the last one and whatnot it got a little squirly because um I didn't know like how something was like taken or or whatnot and I haven't quite um seen everything quite yet but you know it just kind of depended on who was up and who who wasn't it was you know their energy trying to keep them you know calm and whatnot you know I don't want to see anyone like really really upset so I was like trying to be there for like Lily and then you know yeah also you know trying not to say anything where they're going to know like oh I said this it was definitely me was something like I really struggled with you know as well not not being me it's really hard really hard it's really hard not to be me um and I think that probably showed for sure so talk to me about this we're sitting in the chair and Danny's listing off all of the people that are going to be up right you know what I mean you're sitting there and then there's one person laughed and then it's like you hear them say your name and you become the last person on the Block kind of like which is fascinating because I think it's one of the coolest things about the show is like obviously it wasn't cool for you but yeah even if you had the one vote somebody could have like seven you still had the opportunity of going home what is kind of going through your head in that moment when you hear your name be put up for elimination yeah I I expected to be put up for the second elimination I mean I was like one of the only people in the whole house that you know hadn't been mentioned hadn't gone up which mostly got along with like everybody at least like on the outside and whatnot I mean we can tell when I don't like somebody um but I wasn't shocked by that at all um so I was like mostly you know okay with it um oh I forgot the second part of your question though just that just kind of like what's going through your head through that no that was basically it yeah yeah yeah yeah so it's you know it's just like that oh and it one thing I loved about this game is um you know I loved a lot but I love that at the end of the day you're voted out by one person you know it's not the whole house that's like oh casy s like get her out you know and I'm super hated and everything you know at the end of the day I might have looked like you know pretty callous and whatnot but I'm not you know like I want to be liked everyone wants to be liked so getting put up by one person um by Mar S I knew that was going to go down that was definitely happening that was no shock at all um and then you know getting put out by Jack it's two people of however many people were still there so I was okay with it these other shows it's the whole house it's everybody it's out loud and so that that helped me a lot with my anxiety going home I don't think there would be much else I could have done differently to keep me there yeah for sure I agree with you yeah it's there's no jockeying for position because you really don't know at the end of the day there's what at your time there's still 11 people left 11 people could have been the quote unquote Anonymous right yeah yeah for sure so yeah it really didn't even if you got you know seven or one or anything else it's up to it's up to one person so if you it might as well just be like an even playing field it doesn't really matter and honestly like if if you're if you have the more vote most votes than everybody body you're probably shouldn't get rid of that person because they're going to be you know up for elimination again so why would you keep that person they're clearly a Target that's not going to be an issue and you shouldn't keep somebody that like oh you know we know that Robbie is Dice you know well we would keep Robbie because then she's never going to be the anonymous I know I know she's dice so you know we we keep her around um so it's yeah it's it's tough being the yeah it's it's a curse it's it's a blessing and it's it's the curse I guess so right yeah exactly it's a it's a curse because we're sitting here having this conversation but definitely definitely makes the game interesting in a way because I feel like sometimes it each each show like this like you're always jocking for position but you're right and even listening to Jack say about your elimination talk about that he felt like you would be a good game player did you feel uh some sort of comfort not necessar Comfort you're being eliminated but like the idea that you were looked upon as a game player did you like that reflection I love that for me of course I do I mean everyone wants to you know get eliminated and I didn't say it um but it's like oh they come like Dr I don't think that way I don't think like you know I'm in the middle I you know I watch all these shows and everything it's like the second you say like you're in the middle like you're going home and you know like or you're in a good PL you know you're going home that's it so I was like careful to like try to like not say that um but yeah if he you know thought of me as like I would you know be someone that might be an issue later on great you know I love that for me it's better than being hated and you know being annoying or to you know this and that so I mean hey I'll take it and I considered him a friend we didn't get a chance to connect too much but like when we did it was very genuine um so it was easier to be sit home by like a friend uh than someone that I you know didn't get along with so much um so yeah all right so maybe you know maybe you don't but obviously without spoilers who do you think is going to win the anonymous I I think nah will take it home um she's a she's a really smart player she's really quiet quiet she's like um I don't know she's she's just like a really great person um and we all know like her past with her mother and everything so um I don't know how many people knew that going in um I Know Jack obviously did now that I I saw that um but yeah I'm rooting I'm rooting for Nina I love Nina you know Andy I would love Andy um and I hope everything gets better for Lily I think Lily's gonna have a hard time H but I hope not I hope not but they came for her so hard and I just hated it for it was just it was so tough to watch so mean so um yeah but if we're narrowing a Down down I'm going for Nina yeah I I'll be honest with you like I mean you know hindsight 2020 but like I was like I you know you and you and Nina were the two that I was like these two are gonna win this game and then now we're having this chat so but I mean I thought for sure you know what I mean but again I think it's a testament you you did seem like somebody that would be a game player so it does make sense to eliminate game players but I was rooting for you in the first episode and a half that we saw you you know what I mean thank you yeah I I really appreciate it yeah me and Nina had something that could have been could have been something great and I think at the end there I probably should have protected myself a little bit more than um I did you know we had a conversation and Nina was like what are you GNA say and so I was like oh I won't say your name which I still wouldn't have said her name but I would have gone about it you know like a different way rather than I'm gonna address something in the room like I'll I'll say it and I'll not going to be mean about it but it's better for me to get like on the same page then like to walk around like this weird energy like I don't be doing all that um so so that probably didn't didn't help but I love Nina and I'm pulling for her all the way she's she's great we really connected I love her so much [Music]