Town of Troy Zoning Board or Adjustment Public Hearing 7/9/2024 Part 2

we are we are you feel more comfortable now see the I all right I just have one question yes did Mr Hopkins participate in the non session we didn't we didn't deliberate in there we were just looking at at legal resps okay where do we want to go now we need to discuss anything read that a motion or yes you want to do that conclusion yeah want to touch any of Five Section yeah we TCH touch B quickly on on the first floor well okay we're our our procedure is to vote on the application as a whole not to vote on each individual criteria okay that's our methodology going to look at this as a whole so we yeah I'm good with that I'm just wondering if we need to touch the first FL quickly let's let's just let's discuss yeah go go ahead yeah section five full section five second or the last paragraph just just a conclusion in my opinion the applicant satisfies all various criteria except the requirement for special conditions of the property distinguish it from their properties in the area to approve the application all five criteria must be satisfied RSA 674 33 Section 1 the applicant has the burden of proving that all variant criteria are satisfied special conditions identified by the applicant either are not special conditions of the land or do not distinguish the property from others in the area um so no identified special condition in the property so the actually we have in our packet here we have the tax Ms yes surrounding stuff and east and west sides of the street and the other adjoining tax maps there are large properties okay so that makes this not unique in size varying from 2.32 acres to 482 acres in that area on that section and and the ability to put put it behind trees is not unique either okay there's other houses there that you can't see from so that's that doesn't that doesn't make the we need to any more details on that motion anybody have any discussion before we motion we can discuss after the motion I just me just to clarify here the applic statement was that special conditions of the property mainly was the size of it and it's sign larger than all properties if you look at most s of the street it is not also land going based on not meeting crer Mee the criteria any application for the variance I make a motion toight okay second okay any further discussion okay all in favor of all in favor of denying the okay thank you okay based on how I thought this FL go put together the door slams always so they weren't angry did you print out the uh if I thought that you were going to it's the one with the paper clip I thought I had it I saw draa but that's not my dra oh there oh no not that that's your I don't remember this this clip no it's little black you them again what I'd like to do is discuss the documentation of the decision and get get approval from the the board on that draft on it where I thought it would go so we're going to have to draft a letter for that Deni by the way that's what we're going to look at I already already have a oh okay question we have to there's the paper see you found it did I an em one thing I'm sorry guys it's been weird too easy I that's all was okay my my draft marking didn't come through on the so basically I I prepared a finding the facts and anticipation and it was number one the request is not commentary interest two spirit of the ordinance will be observed three substantial Justice will be done four value of surrounding properties would not be diminished and five the special conditions identified by the applicant either are not special conditions ofand or in the case of the lot size do not set it apart from other properties in the area that will be our official app of ta and the actual decision is the fact supporting to denial the requirement for hardship has not been met special conditions identify be app of the same same wording if they because that's the reason got okay so does anybody have any anything they want to change on that a lot of times this happens afterwards I fig do it do it now so get okay EBY this is a question for you the not this notice has been placed on file for public inspector and and has been published in insert paper name day and date are you still doing that of decisions can put it in the paper uh usually I post on website I think I put it up here for a little while send it to all of the parties that need it and then do we have a statutory requirement that publish in the newspaper no I know that for notices of public hearing they changed it from having to go into newspaper to the front page of the website is fine let me know can you look into that or jerem look into it and see what because I want to get this form right and I want to update the form so we don't have to his question again right that's all okay so that that concludes that okay um we have a m now was Miss three she knows she was elected right somebody asked that today I was like I think so so I have sent her she got sworn in right emails I think I think so I got an email for that when she was sworn in um and then I tried emailing her on that one and it got and then she gave me a different email and then that one also got and M I haven't been able to reach her that's been my issue two or three emails she just not through I I don't know so I we can request that the the help me out here um you're back in the spr here um D of Duties D elction of duy yeah we can just ask her if she's not going to participate to put a letter ofation have we trying Facebook I know it sounds silly but she does I also don't want message my personal I can try to call her I've called her before though and the email that she's given me when I called her wasc correct just ask her sheans on coming here I mean a reminder that I sent everybody over the weekend her email L right and that's after I had changed it two other times I would I would call her and ask her if she has any intentions participating participating say yes or no give another chance yeah we'll put this does anybody know where they live [Laughter] we'll put we'll put this on the agenda for our next schedule meeting or the next um mean just just put it down review attendance or something okay we don't want to we really don't want to be mentioned any names we can actually go public discuss we're just trying to find out okay so all right we have anything else on this I just want to mention finding or what was that what's that we finding or something else the finding facts I just just read to you all Happ right everybody's happy with it we can vote can make a motion to approve it if you want or I don't have yeah I mean nor normally I'll take the the findings from one of these things and in a couple days after we need I'll put it together and get a de and sign it I just thought I'd clear my head and do this over weekend there's the man of the hour all the fun I know all right we all ready thanks for coming want to just give an update what happened we denied the variance that's that's basically it okay you already read everything right what you already read everything right all right um let's see we got minutes to approve June 11 these on you did yeah this is this is this is screwed up because some of their stuff says some says 354 and some says 331 right so it's supposed to be 331 that was the public hearing that's proper we're appr yes this is the kind of thing procedurally that should have probably gotten CAU this yeah different addresses well the map and lot number correct it was they came back extension so this this should have been no no Street death zero Richmond Road or something like that she had 331 but they didn't but when they did this I don't think they had driveway okay there wasn't much of that last meeting actually that's in thing is 6:00 on 28 I already planned on changing that okay uh motion to approve with distributor ER I'll make a motion to appr all in favor approving iOS I me me the budget committee sometimes we're fighting over get the second make the motions and all okay um sorry any old business I think so okay any other new business I don't think we have anything on the agenda coming up um the only thing we have is our next regularly scheduled meeting you don't have any applications um Justin you mentioned 6:00 meetings were better for you it does work better for me yeah I mean I'm not opposed to 7 work better for me sometimes we run Fair late yeah what everybody do with anybody sched you're already here here that means that you're not hanging around right home right exactly everybody's okay have issue he's out of town right now that's why I know that you know I'm just I'm looking at you and saying well yeah you can be in favor of us you're not going to be involved so the s we usually we start 5 now right um because some of our meetings still kind of late as well um okay now we have to amend our rules and procedures we change regularly scheduled week CU it has the the date and you know it's like the what the second the month 7:00 at the Town Hall rul have to change it let's get a motion to change the time to that and to update to make a motion to amend our rules as far as 6:00 6:00 I'll second okay all in favor okay all right who second thank you okay doing this all all SK um planing board update you want to do one go ahead I'm look I'm looking I mean we are working on getting the results from the surway that we did getting those distributed to the town um we're working on um three four uh project that came in for plan not a meeting but our that meeting in June um one Hill and two on D Street um there was uh some opposition from the public about one something about Master articles eventually not yet not yet it'll be November before we actually start okay just uh umate we haven't had a meeting in July yet because our meeting fell on July 4th so we suspended it to July 18th okay so that's when we're going to be meeting again uh looks like we're going to be having our public hearing um for the town uh it's not the public hearing it's a town town meeting special town meeting special town meeting to re ratify um all the warrants in our for the year because it's procedure issue so we'll be meeting on 18th over at the rec to get that all beatified one question the short of special should be should be as long as nobody there and says no everybody says yes in favor the public shows up you don't have to it's basically it's not we looking at any of the Warren articles all it is doing is ratifying what we you really did do what you said you did that's all it's uh other than that we just have a regular meeting minutes or meetings I don't think we have other anything particular coming up for the zba um uh we do have some properties that we the TRG listed on Cory Road and on Prospect Street uh we got offers back sent them out for bed we offer back and looks like we're going to be closing on those very shortly we asking price so the town's making some money off of map um the TRG bought those two two properties for like $75,000 around there I think 70,000 um we're making over 100,000 so the town's making some money off that minus the the real estate um the Water and Sewer Commission is meeting tomorrow at 6:00 at the Water and Sewer Department um you saw that their last public hearing that they raised the rates about 42 43% do not come to me and yell at me I don't want to yelled at anymore it isn't my fault going to say any complaints any complaints concerns or comments need to go down to the water Tom might want to change the record office you say please if you have a complaint about water call this number it is insane $400 water so the thing is the E meetings were done June 12th and then they had this public hearing for June 27th and they backdated all the pay or all the cost instead of saying the effective date is June 27th moving forward for the next go you got everyone got charged a new rate prev a lot of people aren happy about that so if you have any comments concerns complaints do not come to the selectman's office the water and SE department will meet tomorrow Wednesday at 6:00 at the water and SE department on okay 151 door thank you you got a sign for the door here uh other than that um we got some Renovations going on here in town hall uh so we got the new F room it's getting worked on out back it's actually in the other garage area so any zba meeting um any records for the zba eventually going to be in that room um upstairs has been getting painted including that stairwell and uh the whole upstairs the ceiling the walls and everything it looks really nice was up there earlier today look being able to use it uh so we do have the Grant from years ago for a elevator SL chairlift um we still haven't really decided other ones ready they just haven't been dropped off unless they dropped off today oh no no no I mean yeah so there's four windows in the main room but if you go around the whole building it's really 11 yeah so uh we're moving along and everything's going to be new eventually I any comments questions concerns for the SEL meeting up there next year is there AC up there well it be in March so hopefully AC is there we're going to bring back keep ticket booth up there uh that is still there it's sort of neat sort of anybody wants to go up and take a look and see it's just they're staging there so just you got to be careful brighter lights so you is going to be up there he's got approved to go up there you fix all the lights electrical and everything so uh on the downside uh it doesn't look like the rec department is going to be able to use it for they're renovating shut the lights off that EAS done right it's a lot of work it's there's a lot of time and effort by the department moves into uh yeah I don't know right now so we did get offer from Mr Ferris with the mill that he would give us an area that they can use um but the current litigation that's going on skeptical doing anything right now so we we appreciate him allowing us to use it but you want to wait until the what's going on with the litigation and everything okay um I I brought this up before but I like to recommend to the select board if they come up with a temporary housing permitter or something like that so that so that when they somebody does you know want go a camp run property or something like that it's not a building it's a separate form so it's clear a very good idea yeah we did that with the um we made a separate extension form it's similar but looks differently so we do the same thing so you know cuz this I mean honestly this looks like a bu even though the minutes from that clearly show they knew what they were getting themselves into yeah yeah and yeah we can do that pretty EAS it's okay thank you I just keep bringing things up um okay next meeting is October 188th 6 p.m. at 600 p.m. uh one more thing the family funding for the is going to be this Saturday the 13th at the community center that's our 4th of July thing when we do our fireworks vendor B house what is it the Saturday Saturday myor 12 to I don't toic my one them got very horse last week from barking for like 3 days straight sound like the chicken dog whatever yep that's where I my days straight okay re is meeting tomorrow to at 6 at the at theun Center pretty sure it's 6:00 so just just just a quick thought there's no no conflicts us meeting at 6 there's nobody else me before us or anything no the only other meeting that meets on Tu days is conservation and they've been pretty good about picking the days that Z Bo okay on the board right here um yeah there's there's a new calendar Sarah she is the one who wrote on it and she's amazing so we'll just have to fix those things is working on a vending machine for theob we got a calendar instead okay uh want tojn motion to adjourn me second okay all in favor thank you for coming thank you for making tough decisions at 7:24 hold on