ALL RIGHT JOINING US NOW, DEAR FRIEND KELLYANNE CONWAY, FORMER COUNSELOR TO PRESIDENT TRUMP, HOST OF "HERE'S THE DEAL" ON FOX NATION. KELLYANNE, I JUST THINK THERE'S A CERTAIN FLIP FLOP PANIC BECAUSE OF LOUSY POLLING GOING ON. SHE SHOULD BE MUCH FURTHER AHEAD IN THE LEAD. SHE'S NOT. SOME OF THESE POLLS ARE SHOWING TRUMP COMING STRONG. SHE DIDN'T GET A CONVENTION. THAT'S WHY I THINK THIS FLIP FLOPPING IS OCCURRING, BUT THEN AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT POLITICS. YOU KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT POLITICS, SO WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS? >> YOU KNOW PLENTY BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY THE AMERICAN PEOPLE CAN GET OUT AUTHENTICITY AND CONSISTENCY. SHE CAN'T BACK AWAY FROM THE HARRIS WHITE HOUSE. YOU KNOW WHAT, LARRY? IF THE DEMOCRATS HAVE DUMPED BIDEN, WE SHOULD TOO. THIS IS THE HARRIS ECONOMY. THIS IS HARRIS INFLATION. THIS IS THE HARRIS BORDER CRISIS. SHE'S THE IN COUPLE BENT, NOT THE INSURGENT. DO YOU KNOW HOW I KNOW THAT? SHE FLIES AROUND IN AIR FORCE TWO, WE REFER TO HER AS THE VICE PRESIDENT. SHE OWNS THIS. HER FLIPS, FLOPS, FAILINGS, FLAILINGS, IT'S A BOOED LOOK FOR ANY WOMAN IN AUTHORITY IN POWER TRYING TO CONVINCE ME SHE'S UP TO THE JOB OF DOMESTIC ENERGY AND ECONOMIC STEWARD AND COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF TO KEEP CHANGING HER MIND, WE'RE WONDERING WHO IS SHE TODAY. YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT BECAUSE WE SAW A LITTLE BIT IN THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARY TOO, DIDN'T WE? THAT PEOPLE WEREN'T GOING TO GO FOR TRUMP LIGHT IF THEY COULD JUST HAVE THE REAL THING. NOW WITH KAMALA, I THINK SHE'S STARTING TO ANGER AND ALIENATE A LOT OF THE FOLKS WHO WANT HER TO BE BERNIE SANDERS WITHOUT THE CHARM AND ELIZABETH WARREN AND THEY WANT HER TO BE MORE SOCIALIST. LARRY, IN PREPARATION FOR TODAY I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT THE GOOD OLD NEW YORK ECONOMIC CLUB SPEECH FROM 2016. PRESIDENT TRUMP DID THE SAME THING IN 2020 BUT HE DELIVERED IT FROM THE ROSE GARDEN. BOY IF YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT WHAT HE SAID IN 2020 ALL HE HAD ACCOMPLISHED AND PROMISED FOR A SECOND TERM WHICH HE'S ABOUT TO GET , HE REALLY PUT IT TO KAMALA EVEN THOUGH HE WASN'T RUNNING AGAINST HER. HE SAID THIS IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN US PROMOTING WORKERS AND INDUSTRY THAT WAS FLAT ON ITS BACK VERSUS PUNISHING WORKERS, AND OUTSOURCING OUR JOBS AND OUR WEALTH OVERSEAS TO PLACES LIKE CHINA. RECALIBRATING THOSE TRADE DEALS. THE ENERGY INDEPENDENCE. I LISTENED TO HER TODAY IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, LARRY. KAMALA HARRIS PROMISING TO HELP SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS. THE FACT IS WE'VE HAD A 31-MONTH ROLL OF LOWER CONFIDENCE AMONG SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS. ITS BEEN 31 MONTHS. YOU CAN'T BE A SUPPLY SIDE SUCCESS IF YOU'VE BEEN A SUPPLY CHAIN FAILURE. LOOK, DONALD TRUMP'S LEADING HER ON THE CHIEF QUESTION, WHO DO YOU TRUST MORE TO HANDLE THE ECONOMY AND ALL THE SWING STATES IS THE KEY. LARRY: WHAT DO YOU THINK, HE'S GOING TO BE WITH SHAWN HANNITY TONIGHT, FOX TOWN HALL UP IN PENNSYLVANIA. I THINK HE'S GOING TO TALK A LOT ABOUT ENERGY AND HE'S THE GUY WHOSE IN FAVOR OF FRACKING. NO IMMITATION HERE, AND HOW IMPORTANT OIL & GAS IS. PENNSYLVANIA AS YOU KNOW IS A HUGE OIL AND GAS STATE, AND HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF JOBS DEPENDENT ON IT. I'M JUST THINKING THAT WHEN SHAWN GETS HIM UP THERE HE'S GOING TO EMPHASIZE THAT AND YOU KNOW, IF YOU PRODUCE MORE OIL & GAS GUESS WHAT HAPPENS? PRICES FALL, AND INFLATION, NOT JUST IN POPULATION RATES, BUT ACTUALLY THE LEVEL OF PRICES WILL FALL FOR HUNDREDS OF CONSUMER GOODS THROUGHOUT THE ECONOMY. I GOTTA BELIEVE HE'S GOING TO MAKE THOSE KINDS OF POINTS, KELLYANNE. WHAT DO YOU THINK? >> HE SHOULD, AND I THINK PART OF DONALD TRUMP'S ENERGY INDEPENDENCE AGENDA AND SUCCESS AS PRESIDENT, HIS PERFORMANCE, LARRY, IS WHY HE IS STAYING COMPETITIVE IN PENNSYLVANIA, A STATE THAT'S BEEN VOTING MORE DEMOCRATIC FOR ITS GOVERNOR, SENATOR, FETTERMAN LAST TIME AROUND. I THINK IT'S BECAUSE THEY KNOW THE TRUMP RECORD ON THE ECONOMY BUT PARTICULARLY ENERGY. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT BANNING FRACKING AS KAMALA HARRIS HAS, WHETHER SHE WANTS TO LIE ABOUT IT OR NOT, SHE HAS. YOU LITERALLY ARE GOING INTO HOUSEHOLDS ALL ACROSS PENNSYLVANIA SAYING I'M TAKING YOUR JOBS AND YOUR LIVELIHOOD AND IT'S ALL OUT OF SPITE. LARRY, IT DOESN'T EVEN SEEM TO BE IDEOLOGICAL. IT SEEMS TO BE OUT OF SPITE. SAME REASON FOR KILLING THOSE KEYSTONE PIPELINE JOBS ON DAY ONE AND THE WAR ON FOSSIL FUELS AND SAME REASON TO PAUSE THOSE LNG PERMITS SO THAT PUTIN'S SOURCING WESTERN AND EASTERN EUROPE WITH FUEL NOW. THIS IS NOT GOOD, WITH ENERGY NOW. SO THEY KNOW WHOSE BACKING FRACKING. HIS NAME IS DONALD TRUMP. BUT LOOK I THINK PRESIDENT TRUMP CAN TALK ABOUT THE ECONOMY IN FULL. IT IS AT ITS CORE ABOUT ENERGY INDEPENDENCE BUT HE'S THE GUY WHO GAVE US THE TAX CUT AND JOBS ACT, THE RECALIBRATED TRADE DEALS AND THE GUY WHO LOOKED AT INDUSTRY, IN OUR BELOVED PENNSYLVANIA. MINING, COAL, MANUFACTURING, CONSTRUCTION, AND SAID ON FOR YOU, HILLARY SAID I'M GOING TO PUT COAL OUT OF BUSINESS AND I THOUGHT WE DON'T EVEN HAVE TO RUN A COMMERCIAL WE'LL JUST SHOW HER SO HE'S GOT A LOT TO SAY IN PENNSYLVANIA TONIGHT. HE'S SPENDING A TON OF TIME THERE. WE KNOW LARRY, IF DONALD TRUMP WINS PENNSYLVANIA, GEORGIA, AND NORTH CAROLINA NUMBER 45 BECOMES NUMBER 47. LARRY: YOU BET. YOU KNOW ON THE NEW YORK ECONOMICS CLUB, I WANT TO SEE JUST PLAIN VANILLA, TAX CUTS, REGULATORY CUTS, UNLOCK THE FOSSIL FUELS SPIGOTS, KING DOLLAR, PROTECT TRADE. I WANT GROWTH, YOU KNOW? GROWTH POLLS REALLY WELL BECAUSE GROWTH IS SUPER-IMPORTANT. PEOPLE WANT TO CLIMB THE LADDER OF SUCCESS. I WANT OLD FASHION GROWTH. GIVE ME GROWTH. I WANT HIM TO DO GROWTH AT THE ECONOMICS CLUB OF NEW YORK. THAT'S WHAT I WANT. IT'S ON 42ND STREET AND IT EQUALS GROWTH THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR , KELLYANNE. >> I BELIEVE HE WILL DO THAT. HE DID THAT BEFORE AT THE NEW YORK ECONOMIC CLUB. WE WERE BOTH THERE IN SEPTEMBER OF 2016. HE'S GOING BACK TO THE SAME PLACE. LARRY I REMEMBER WHEN HE PROMISED 4% GROWTH. PRESIDENT OBAMA CAME OUT AND SAID WHAT ARE WE JUST GOING TO WAVE OUR MAGIC WAND? NO IT'S CALLED POLICY AND PRINCIPLE AND CAUSATION, NOT COINCIDENCE. HE GOT IT UP THERE BUT YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE? IT WAS AN OPTIMISTIC ADDRESS AS IT WAS IN 2020 SO I WANT TO SEE A LOT OF OPTIMISM, GROWTH IS OPPORTUNISTIC AND HE SAID IN 2020 AND 2016, THEY ARE FOR STAGNATION AND INFLATION AND DEPRESSION AND OUTSOURCING OUR JOBS AND WE'RE FOR GROWTH AND PROSPERITY AND OPPORTUNITY. I THINK IT'S A BIG REASON WHY PRESIDENT TRUMP IS TIED WITH KAMALA HARRIS AMONG HISPANICS IN SOME OF THESE POLLS WHY HE'S GOT 20% OF AFRICAN AMERICANS MEN UP FROM 12%. THIS IS ABOUT RISING TIDES LIFTING ALL BOATS AND I LOVE WHEN DONALD TRUMP IS SPECIFIC AND SUBSTANTIVE. SHE'S GENERIC. HE NEEDS TO BE GRANULAR. EVEN TODAY, I'M GOING TO DEREGULATE. I'M FOR CUTTING REGULATION. NOBODY BELIEVES HER BUT IT'S HARD TO TAKE HER SERIOUSLY WHEN SHE DOESN'T GIVE YOU SPECIFICS ANYWAY. NO TIME FOR THIS. WE NEED POLICY AND SPECIFICS. LARRY: YEAH, I DIDN'T HEAR IT ALL TOED BUT THE REPORTS, I'M JUST RAISING THE CAPITAL GAINS TAX A LITTLE BIT. NO, NO, YOU SHOULD BE CUTTING THE CAPITAL GAINS TAX. YOU SHOULD BE INDEXING IT. YOU SHOULD BE LOWERING CORPORATE TAX RATES. YOU SHOULD BE LOWERING INCOME TAX RATES. I MEAN, I DON'T WANT JUST A LITTLE INCREASE. I WANT REDUCTIONS, BECAUSE REDUCTIONS AND TAXES SPELL GROWTH, KELLYANNE CONWAY, THANK YOU, EVER SO MUCH WE APPRECIATE IT. FOLKS, BE SURE TO CATCH HERE'S