when we talk about crime the conversation turns to gun safety as well and I think you actually probably caught a lot of people off guard maybe a bit by surprise in the debate the other night when you mentioned that you are a gun owner I know you said it in 2019 as well want to talk about your values on this issue when it comes to gun ownership where do you draw the line in America on gun ownership and gun use well like you said Brian and I am a gun owner and Tim Walls my running mate is also a gun owner we're not taking anybody's guns away I support the Second Amendment and I support reasonable gun safety laws part of my approach to this is I was a career prosecutor for most of my career I have personally prosecuted homicide cases I have personally looked at autopsies I have personally seen what assault weapons due to the human body and so I feel very strongly that it is consistent with the Second Amendment and your right to own a gun to also say we need an assault weapons ban they're literally tools of War it is consistent with the Second Amendment and your right to own a gun to also say we need an assault weapons ban false wrong wrong incorrect negative no nay absolutely not