[Music] we have to really escalate the noise we make so that we'll be heard [Music] welcome to Gay USA I'm Andy hum and I'm Marin jnes sitting in for an northrip who will be back next week but it's so great to have you here it's great to be here after last night yes because and we will talk we will give you our analysis of the so-called debate between Harris and Trump and we'll also check in with Tim walles and his passionate discussion of our community at the HRC dinner yep uh Delaware this is big news is going to send the first transgender person to the United States House of Representatives and we have court wins for Trans uh students in both New Hampshire and Arizona uh Pro lgbtq states are now bidding for lgbtq tourists that Florida apparently doesn't want and sad news out of uh Wisconsin a 19-year-old uh young man by the name of am M laurano was killed by his soulmate just for being black and gay and stories emerg that that 14-year-old Georgia school shooter was bullied in school and kids would call him gay we don't know what he was but uh there was bullying going on apparently according to the dad um and we have some uh interesting news uh from sweet Brier College uh an all women's college it's breaking with most women's schools by Banning Trends female students uh the new Chief Justice of Tonga is an out game it's very interesting we'll take a visit to the South Pacific later in the show uh and also in a village in Colombia in the Amazon uh a transwoman has been elected as the chief that's quite a story and we are more in the loss of Irish feminist journalist Nell mccaffery she has died at the age of 80 we have an update on impx vaccines for you yep because uh and we should say if if this is the only part of the show you're watching in New York state it's going to be available at pharmacies without a prescription and then uh two Evan Hansen tied the not with each other you we will find out what do the ODS do that okay so the uh the big event of the week was the uh uh the you know they called it a debate but they they're not allowed to even question each other between Harris and Trump uh what what I thought she killed it I I did I think she got off to a bit of a nervous start uh I I felt that she she sounded a little bit fragile at the beginning to me a little bit anxious and I think the reason for that is because she has so much on her shoulders she knows the stakes of this debate and also he's probably pretty damn scary to be standing next to I did love she never met him before she'd never met him before and you know I really love the way she crossed the stage she extended her hand and she introduced herself and I I think that was really Brave he backed away from her he wasn't going to do that at all so I think that was a very very smart thing to do that her intentions were going to be transparent and civil and he was so tempted to start hurling what he does at his rallies which is to Hur abuse at her and call her a horrible woman and a hor show and a this and a that but he he was felt a little constrained about that but he was angry through the whole thing and she made him angrier she got to him you know when he debated Hillary Clinton she was you know was the first woman part candidate of a major party in the United States and she was walking a tight rope you know if I'm too aggressive they're going to call me a b word or something so you know but Harris just was firm and wasn't going to take anything from him and just let him have it and I thought she did tremendously I think I do and I think it the tones were quite different and what we had on display here were not you know two old men duking it out which we've seen before what we had was a woman who has a big streak of vulnerability if I can say we've built up this image of her as being this kind of like prosecutor figure um some of her voice the the emotion in her voice and it was an emotion of caring that she actually cares for us and I think Trump's Focus was very much on how presidential he could come across how kind of masculine and paternalistic he could be and of course how great he is and how everyone says he's great all the world leaders Victor auan says he's great well nobody raised lgbtq issues in this forum uh not the moderators and not the candidates except Trump likes to beat that business anything anti-transgender he's going to work it in and he did and he went after her uh saying you know she's for transgender surgeries for illegal aliens and I'm quoting him in prisons now I mean people who are in prison whether they're legal or not you know deserve uh medical care whatever is the appropriate medical care that's the answer to the question but of course it it's something that they're going to run with and say this is what she's for and people will say oh I don't think I'm for that I mean why should they have that you know and so it's it's it's an issue it was very quickly uh glossed over we did not come up as a question now I'm very surprised by that is that because I mean ABC have been already accused of being a little bit nonpartisan here but why why don't you think they brought our community up and used it as a wedge issue well they you know they did they did act like the right Wing is furious at ABC for factchecking him they fact checked him three times he told 33 demonstrable lies they could have but and they they would have gotten tired F factchecking him uh so uh you know uh the New York Times did a three-page spread on the issues of the day and where the candidates stand they didn't even include us and but but but that's not going to stop the republ it's the Republicans at this point everybody knows that kamla Harris is pro LGB she has been forever and of course his supporters try to say oh he's the most Pro gay republ give me a break I mean the people he's hired are anti-gay bigots and people at project 20 I mean he was trying to get away from Project 202 very interesting he said he hadn't read it he didn't know anything about it no no no he said I haven't read it but there's some good stuff and there's some bad stuff well maybe you read it then maybe because everybody you know who you've ever hired who you haven't fired was the people were the people who were writing it it is the blueprint for a future Republican Administration whether it's Trump or somebody else it's very interesting um yes uh I felt he started quite strong I I think he started fairly strong fairly competent I thought oh he's he's going to be very cool uh and then there was a turning point for me when Kamala was speaking about abortion and women's rights and I really feel she gained the advantage there she came across as knowledgeable and ab absolutely heartfelt and passionate and I don't think he understood what what he could say about well he doesn't know what to say because he doesn't know where he stands I mean basically I mean I'm sure he's paid for a lot of abortions for his Mistresses uh you know uh and so he he doesn't he doesn't know where he stands and yet he has he's the one who got rid of roie Wade by getting these right-wing crazy J justices on the court and he stuck with that and then he couldn't say whether he's you know going to sign or not sign a veto and I think this is a big uh tactical error here by saying that JD Vance is out there in the field saying he will sign the Visa no no JD Vance saying he won't sign it he won't sign it yeah I mean it's just too confusing because they because look you don't have to have a good memory if you if you know if you uh speak the truth but they don't know how to speak the truth he again 33 lies they said that Harris told a lie too sure I mean who doesn't Li which one was I don't know what it was you know it was whatever but uh you know so the executing babies at uh 9 months has to be the low point of the debate I mean that had to be really quite he he's out of his mind and orth the they're eating the cats I think eating the cats in uh what state in the midwest are they eating cats and dogs I think that was already debunked yes and he said but I saw it on TV they're saying it on television and then when he's questioned about healthc care he says you're going to you're going to hear something very soon which is what he's been saying for 10 years about everything I'm going to have a plan very very soon he was President for four years I mean he was going after her saying oh she's for all these things why didn't she do it while she was vice president but he said policies are like Run Spot Run it's four sentences that was hilarious I actually will say I laughed out loud four times last night I laughed out loud watching it it was actually comical some of the stuff he was saying um with with Healthcare I think he said um I have a I have a concept of a plan was what he said but but again he he promised an infrastructure bill for 4 years never delivered Biden did uh he just doesn't do things he just he's just he's he's all talk and no saddle don't all hat I forgot what the expression apologize no here was some other uh zingers I loved that we are going to be if we elect the Democrats we are going to turn into Venezuela on steroids thought that was interesting uh the second turn point if I have to like look at this like a Hollywood screenplay uh for me the the sort of narrative structure he went completely off the rails when she said let me tell you something about Donald Trump's rallies people leave early because they're bored and exhausted yes and he lost his mind I think he completely lost the threat and then he's like a baby he's like no you nobody goes to your rallies you pay them it's just they want to fall that was that was great I mean I but again we've seen that he's a fool forever I've lived in New York for you know I've seen him for 40 years and thought he was Despicable and unbelievable um but half the country still supports him out there and then they say things like oh I was paying loves for bacon in those days well look I mean yes inflation was bad by the way inflation went down to 2.5% uh today as we today we've dropped um what else was what else stood out for you well I mean that that the thing about eating the pets was was was meme that was developed or a falsehood was put on Haitians who are really speaking up about this and uh it's racist it's it's that's they always want to work racism into their presentation that these foreign color you know people of color are the one they wouldn't call them people of color they you know but they they are the people who are are hurting you and and eating your pets right I mean it's pure racism even Dana Dana Bash said it last I've never heard of it I I've heard of and and killing life chickens but I haven't heard of eating dogs for dinner in the Caribbean haven't sorry I eat chickens and pigs and cows I mean some people object to that I understand that he also completely abandoned Ukraine and of course well you know when completely abandoned Ukraine he was directly asked about Israel and he pivoted to Russia and what Putin was doing without even really answering and he only cares about the Russians who died in the war not the ukrainians yeah it was very strange and she was very clever to say hey there are 800 100,000 polish uh Americans or Polish people of Polish descent in Pennsylvania you're next if he lets Putin take over uh Ukraine and that's a fact yes so anyway else what else what else well I mean I think we should move on to the endorsement of the week oh yes absolutely yes it was very very heartening we've been waiting for this moment for a long time will Taylor Swift come out and officially endorse Kamala Harris uh well right after the debate she took to Instagram which is her medium of choice and she posted herself holding her lovely cat and uh basically said you know I've weighed all up I've looked at all my options I've done my research you should too and I'm getting behind Kamala Harris and as you can see at this point this morning when I looked in here we had 7.5 million likes I believe it's up to about nine now Mr hum yeah I mean she's got 283 million followers not all are Americans and of them are underage um I see you were very kind to put my like up there on the screen there the eagle-eyed audience members will see that Andy liked it so did I um but look it is going to be it is a pivotal moment it's another kind of sign about who won the debate if you looked at uh the share price this morning of Donald Trump's uh Trump media uh they plummeted by about 14 a half% they're right about 13 now and meanwhile Alternative Energy shares have gone up so that's a pretty of Al of course in the stock market is a little bit of a canary in the coal mine here telling us who won all right now you know I one of the things I wish you had done me because you know people say you know what are your positions on anything well this was the week that she posted all of her positions on her website finally so you can go to her campaign website and it now contains a detailed issue section it's not Spot Run Run Spot Run no including protecting lgbtq Americans in healthcare housing employment and more it also highlights how Trump's project 2025 will eliminate Federal rules that protect lgbtqi people from discrimination um she contrasts all of her positions with project 202's dystopian plan and while Trump tries to disown project 2025 as I said his people wrote it the only people that he can draw from from the next Administration are the people who wrote it and she's honored to have this is got surreal an would call this surrealism in everyday life she's comma is honored to have the endorsement of that war criminal Dick Cheney and uh Liz Cheney now you know they're conservative Republicans to say the least um but you know it certainly does shake things up a little bit well the third the third turning point was when she said and let me tell you how many Republicans support me like 200 yeah and people who work for him and people who have no respect for him and they think you're a disgrace and oh she said disgrace twice yes that's one of his favorites his favorite words all right uh last week the t uh the times published a piece about historians um starting to acknowledge that the now here's the thing the system that we're in why are we even worried about this election I mean if we had a if we had a normal system of electing a chief executive she would win easily but we have this electoral college thing and historians are are starting to look at this and say look our constitution is the problem Trump has mastered using the Constitution to get what he wants and we have a we have minority rule in this country now as a result and it is time to really I mean I don't know what's going to happen in this election I hope we get through it but that's not enough we need better systems of governance that's a big job for you young people out there um and others everybody to get together and you know who would adopt a system like ours where you have a senate where everybody gets two votes how much population they have that kind of stuff it's just terrible well all right so Tim Walls yes yeah who who Trump calls terrible or he he he oh he's the worst I mean you know oh God he's you know he's he's for letting anybody in he's you know he's for Trans everything yeah okay so he was at the Human Rights Campaign and he gave a passionate endorsement of lgbtq Rights he talked about what it means to be an lgbtq ally Ally ship is a great thing but what many of you in here knows is it's easy to be an ally when it's easy to be be an ally what really matters is knowing who's going to be at your side and stand up when it's hard and it was in those moments that those students inspired me years later look I'm a 40-some guy with little kids who is teaching school trying to pay the mortgage the idea of running for office never got to me or thought about it but those students inspired me and when they saw in me is what I was trying to instill in them this commitment to a common good I believe one person can make a difference in other people's lives so in 2006 I took the leap ran for congress no one told me at that time and I of course you know apparently couldn't google it um in that district there had been one other Democrat since 1892 and in that red District I was in a state that had banned same marriage for a decade but I knew I was right and I ran on the platform that supported equality and this is what I said I got asked at a debate if I supported civil unions I I said sure if that's your thing but I said my marriage to my wife Gwen is the most important thing in my life I love her deeply why would I stop anybody else from marrying the person they love that makes no sense now this was this was 2006 and some of you uh with a little more gray hair or less of it can remember this time um that the other side said oh a B- rate candidate finally showed his true colors by saying this well as it turned out a majority of my neighbors agreed with us and they elected me to represent them in the United States house and after it was over some people came up to me and said wow you R you won in spite of being uh pro-choice and PR gay marriage and I said no no no you've got this wrong I won because I was for those positions that's why we won so people will vote for people of true conviction and who actually do stand for something and that was terrific I would run this whole speech if if I could it was about a half hour and I'm going to link to it in our email uh so that you can you can watch the whole it's a terrific speech we're going to show one more section of it yeah he talked about how Minnesota acted to end censorship of lgbtq books and those on race and gender in school libraries and we did something a little bit we banned Banning books especially Banning lgbtq books for themes in [Applause] that think about it in this room this is what these folks are focusing on spending all their time like reading about two male Penguins who love each other is is somehow going to turn your children gay and that's what you should worry about but here's what I'll tell you it's a fact of life some people are gay but you know what's not a fact of life that our children need to be shot dead in schools that's not a fact of life [Applause] folks are Banning books but they're okay with weapons of war being in our schools look that's not this country it doesn't have to be this way it doesn't happen elsewhere we're going to make sure our children are seen they bring their authentic self and then we're going to make sure they're safe when they get there so thank you all I can't wait till he debates JD Vance he he's a really good speaker because he's picking up on JD Vance who said you know school shooting well it's just a fact of life we just need to secure the schools more what the hell are you going to do you got to get rid of these weapons it's not eff of life and if it happens in any other country they caught it from here Australia took care of it yeah we took care of it yes yes with the conservative government yes you know all right so Trump had a hell of a week besides this forum he he got a another get out of jail free card he was not sentenced when he should have been I was very disappointed in judge M who said oh I don't want to interfere with the election I mean come on no one is supposed to be above the law he should have been sentenced yes he tried to overturn the verdict in the egene Carol defamation case and he was dogged by our friends in rise and resist they were down there at the courthouse felon psychopath criminal pay up dead beat liar that's what they sign said there's our friend I mean they're all our friends but Jackie Ruden there Jack toward the uh uh towards the right of a frame she's holding the pay up dead beat sign yes I like it they were all all over the television they provide the visuals uh for the Press about what Trump is all about and they go out around that gets out around the country yeah it's nonviolent but it is direct action uh so you know as I said he lost the chaines this week and his and his line about kids getting gender confirmation surgery in school during the day it's aund % Bonkers that was hilarious they go to school they go to school one thing and they come home transgender he keeps no they come home and they after an operation they get the operation in school I mean is that happening in the p in the gym where is that happening and so Mary Trump uh Donald's lesbian niece had a third book out about him and their family she writes that Donald's brother was seriously ill excuse me Donald's mother was seriously ill and psychologically un able she's a psychologist herself and that his grandfa her grandfather Fred senior was a sociopath uh you know by the way kamla didn't bring up about anything about Trump's family but his father who he praised during the debate you know was a a KKK member at one time no she said that he was handed $400 million on the silver platter by a guy who had been a member of the KKK exactly but the big the big Zinger in this for me about Mary Trump is she basically comes out says that Donald drove her to ketamine therapy which is uh ketamine is like one of the strongest anti-depressants it's very controversial it uh we don't know if it has terrible side effects Elon Musk is apparently on it um but basically she said uh she wrote the third book because she said I want to live and having him as my uncle is basically you know driving me to despair right so well she said he was a bully you had no friends as a child and then the former director of project 2025 the which is the blueprint for the Trump Administration if he gets back in no about what he says is saying that Trump is blowing the election by having campaign managers who are not committed to the far right on abortion and trade and is alienating the base andess and depressing enthusiasm if only uh this guy Dan uh has also fall to the campaign for agreeing to a historically early debate in June giving Biden time to drop out and uh be replaced and that's true I mean that if the debate had normally happens in October and if that if Biden had had that performance then we were going down sorry we love you uh Joe but uh anyway all right the big win in Delaware oh yes uh Sarah McBride um uh transgender Senator has won the Democratic primary for Delaware it's the only house seat and um she actually beat out I think three other Democrats so she's definitely favored to win November and that will mean she will become the first openly transgender member of Congress that's going to make a difference in there you know when there's when people have a seat at the table she used to worked for the Human Rights Campaign was a bit of a spokesperson there she's very poised very close to Joe Biden you know who was from Delaware and supports her uh uh wrote the intro to her book I think uh yeah uh so yeah Sarah McBride congratulations to us all having you in there will make a bit will make a difference we hope and by the way who did Trump rely on for preparing for this debate two of the biggest nudniks in history tulsey gabard the turncoat Democrat and Matt Gates who was who was an absolute nutcase uh you know crazy man and that's what he relied on that's what he thought was going to win him the debate he relied on those people not on sane people well I I mean I it still sounded and it felt to me like he was really Off Script and that was his strategy was to not really have a strategy anyway all right okay some other news our justice department announced charges against two leaders of the white supremacist Terror gram Collective which is an international terrorist group that operates on telegram we got a picture of Dallas Humber of California a woman and Matthew Allison of Idaho they were charged with soliciting the murder of public officials and soliciting hate crimes including on the basis of sexual orientation and gender identity they had also a plan to ignite a race war that is their goal um and and this is the problem with these uh Free Speech platforms telegram is of course created by Russian billionaire P Pavel durov who uh his private life is a bit of a mystery but he claims to have fared over a 100 or is it a thousand children via sperm donation what what what other person does he have that in common with let me think now who runs a free speech platform that is supposedly you know for everyone's good but is actually becoming the place where these race baiting is really didn't they arrest him in France or something yes they did France arrested him but the problem is under the guise of free speech you have uh incredible seeds of division are being swn under the guise of that I'm not very fond of the I mean of course I use the internet but I think it's spoiled a lot of things sure has uh we're old media here with a 1-hour television show um okay uh we've told you how right-wing pressure groups are getting corporations like Lowe's and Ford to drop their commitment to Dei diversity TR to supply company and hrc's corporate equality index so now shareholders of those companies are saying we're going to fight this and we're going to go into litigation to get you to reopt these policies and we're going we want to get rid of the board members who voted to get rid of this so there's a fight back any companies in particular that spring to mind yes u u you know U the ones that have the ones that have dumped it like Lowe's and Ford all right uh Arizona's ban on trans athletes and schools was blocked by the ninth Circuit Court of Appeals so this is going to affect a lot of States they called it the essence of discrimination the court found that the the court found this is a quote prepubescent trans girls and trans girls girls uh on puberty blockers have no significant advantages over CIS girls their own age that's the evidence that was presented this is of course one of those heinous 2022 laws being overturned there's a bunch of them yes and then a federal court blocked New Hampshire's uh ban don't have that right on trans girls and girls Sports the ruling said the stigma and humiliation that comes from such treatment of a child at the hands of the state is substantial and a rep able and this was the case brought by two trans girls who just wanted to play tennis or whatever the hell it was that's right I remember that case yes and we're jumping over to the tourism sector of Florida I think with the next thing yeah this is very close to my heart because I was uh quite um uh visible in the travel segment at the time that visit Florida you know they had a dedicated micro site they had lots of lgbtq people saying come to Florida come to the Sunshine State there was so many advertising in 25 years I I was on a press junket to Miami Beach that was just about promoting gay stuff there you go and as you know several weeks ago uh the Blogger Rachel cllo from out coast.com sounded the alarm when she discovered that the uh the unique link and the unique section of visit florida.com had mysteriously disappeared the one that had lgbtq content and um and they of course have said that it is uh about bringing the message of marketing and content in line with taxpayers dollars and the state's uh Mission fine there are other places we can go aren't there and now where are they Colorado Colorado Jared polus has an outdate governor and they she and he said well since Florida doesn't want you come on over and explore what Colorado has to offer in Colorado we don't really care about who you date we just appreciate you uh supporting our economy and spreading money on our great stores and restaurants and you'll have a gay old time he said and then Illinois's Bureau sent the message lack of Love In the Sunshine State come to Illinois plan your lgbtqia adventure take notes Florida they said and then um uh Connecticut got in the action too I guess all of them will I Michigan look there's so many there's so much potential here especially for the more Regional destinations right so this the woman you mentioned Rachel cavello um you know she has a section of her website called en jooy queer Florida and she's petitioning to restore the dozens of pages that the State of Florida wiped out on resources and attractions for lgbtq people well just as it's uh you know the marketing is dependent on taxpayers dollars all those people featured on the website's content are small business owners they're people that really need the support of Tourism I just think it's you're rubbing from Peter to pay Paul it's really ridiculous all right uh in Manhattan where we sit uh we've told you about the anti-trans education council member Maud Marin who was removed from the board because she made offensive comments about gender identity and other things yes well she was reinstated by a federal judge yes uh under the GU of course Free Speech uh yet again um she uh the judge found that schools Chancellor David Banks violated her Free Speech rights uh by outing her from the position well she's a horror show she's very aligned with moms for Liberty um uh she will get her place back on the powerless Advisory board but hasn't decided whether to seek re-election next year no she probably thinks she can run for mayor now probably she's a you know rather grandiose all right down in Virginia at Sweet Brier College are we talking about that when I went to the University of Virginia that was one of our sister schools what do they like down the road I went I was in Charlottesville well it's so interesting I did not go on dates anybody in sweet Brier no but but a lot of the guys did yeah yeah I went to a single sex school and we literally had the boys school across the the creek well we had just become coad the year before I came at UVA a public university only became integrated uh sexually in uh 20 1970 what's interesting about this case to me is in a way my heart goes out for them because look here we have a school that was founded by a man who lost his little girl Daisy she died prematurely so what does he do he starts a college that's to be for these young girls and in young women and he's obviously got this very idelic you know 19th century vision of Womanhood uh So based on his will which was executed in 1900 he said that this this private liberal arts college was to be a place of girls and young women well that's the way they're interpreting it so this is this is one of the few women's colleges is to say we're not taking we're not accepting trans uh girls at our school girls and women it's this whole thing again about taking documents of of founding fathers a little too literally and not keeping up with the times 23 women's colleges do allow uh and you know sweet Brier had previously admitted trans women on a Case by casee basis The Faculty Senate voted 48 to4 against what the board did and the students are are and they call it morally repugnant what the board did and the students are up in arms about this too I think so it's you know you're probably going to lose students as a result of this who don't like your retrograde attitudes when I read this story I had visions of the the old Australian movie called Picnic at Hanging Rock with all of the women running around in white lace and you know soft focus and Picking Daisies oh my goodness I think we have to move it used to be that way it did used to be that way all right all right uh all right this is is a horror story from Wisconsin oh dear um yes uh which one so the the Green Bay Correctional terrible 19-year-old M laurano uh has been killed by his cmate for simply being black and gay 19 years old 19 awful uh prosecutors have charged Jackson vogle 24 with first degree intentional homicide and hate crime uh this is a Green Bay Correctional uh institution his family is asking he be remembered by planting a tree or contributing to the National Alliance on Mental Illness or by supporting students with special needs he had been sentenced to two years for a battery during a fight in wesa County the alleged victim who uh previously met Micah through a dating app U uh his cellmate was 24 had been sentenced to 40 years for attempted homicide this guy's named Jackson vogle and he's been charged with first-degree murder with hate crime uh and he's a repeat offender vogle who was white admitted The Killing was based on his bias uh he knocked Micah out tied him up strangled him to death um he said he killed him because he was bored I mean the this is what you they can't control anything in these prisons um why he had to share a cell with a psychopath I don't know all right um the FBI is investigating is doing a civil rights investigation in Houston oh yes this is very interesting so a park ranger by the name of Joey Lamar Ellis he under investigation over alleged lgbtq uh extortion and possible sexual assault basically what's been happening is this former Houston park ranger uh has been apparently allegedly using his position to uh extort individuals in various Parks across the city um he block your car and then he'd say oh you're guilty of something roll down the window or open the car door and then he would extort give me money or else or and sexually abuse you yeah this is the kind of stuff that he did so five five people have come forward and they expect more to come forward well he's been charged with something called official oppression and he's been uh he was arrested back in June and the bond was set at $30,000 this week okay and and then I I don't I almost don't want to touch the story but tell us about Alex Ray Scott I don't want to either but the truth is it's apparently happening and this issue of people being incarcerated so Alex Ray Scott is a trans suspect in the murder of yes 28 in the murder of uh New York City uh Upper East Side antiques dealer transgender now yes so Scott uh fled Oklahoma in 2019 initially to escape allegations that she molested a 5-year-old uh but there was another crime after this uh Scott apparently murdered and dismembered their room mate their their housemate Robin scapo 63 with a chainsaw and then and then buried parts of the body in a creek on on Cherokee land uh so this is a big ball of string um where we laugh Le last left this uh the Supreme Court on Monday basically has uh accepted um Scott's uh admission she comes to New York and she goes on an app and meets this an dealer Ken sininsky and kills him 2020 he's 64 years of age which is ironically the same age basically as the person that she was living with back in Oklahoma well so I do wonder about the personality of this uh of this suspect but anyway I don't it's it's h if there's a personality disorder is what I'm thinking but listen I uh they they walked into a police station in uh New York and said I think I may have killed someone last night uh they did apparently so um we've looking at maybe a sentence of 40 years unless it's a plea deal and it'll be about 20 something years well she'll be sentenced in New York and in Oklahoma yes all right and you all heard about the horrible story of the 14-year-old school shooter in Georgia who killed four people and injured nine others Colt gray as a picture of him was apparently bullied in school by classmates who called him gay according to his father the father but you know increasingly I just don't know that we can trust anything the father says well it's it's never surprising to hear that these kids who lash out on this outrageous way uh were bullied um and this is the way they're getting back at Society by by taking a gun to school and just shooting it up because there were too many goddamn guns around of course why did he have a gun his father gave him an AR15 to Christmas to his mentally unstable uh of uh 13-year-old at the time son and that's even after the FBI had paid them a visit and basically quiz the father on the front porch the Sun comes out uh everyone's having a good chat about um did he mean to really post a threat to shoot up the school on Discord which is a which is an app a lot of Gamers use and he's like oh no I don't think it was me could be the father gave him the gun because he said you need to get out and uh stop just playing video games and he did right there you go all right uh let's talk about somebody uh somebody lovely that we lost uh the celebrated art director and photographer Lloyd zff who died at the age of 81 oh yes I survived by his husband Steven man yes I'm trying to find my notes on this because basically um L Lloyd did a lot of uh interesting work in magazine publishing that I certainly was very influenced by um basically he brought back Vanity Fair from the dead I think and really did re remount that visually my memory of his sort of era of magazine design was that he was elevating it I mean he was involved in the artistic direction of uh con as traveler travel and Leisure magazine rolling yeah it was the idea of these publications of course existed but he really did Elevate them in the 70s ' 80s and9 got famous photographing his Art School classmate Robert Maple Thorp in 1968 at the time P that he was living with Patty Smith in a small apartment in Brooklyn and those pictures those intimate pictures they weren't sex pictures exactly um but he got he did everything um Annie lovit said she was inspired by him known he was known for his intellectual Flash and Dynamic Color sense and he said the reason I stuck with magazines doing magazines for so long is cuz I wanted to give work to my friends yeah yeah of course and but there was a aesthetically there was a Great Leap Forward you've all seen the cheesy magazines of the 50s and 60s and then suddenly they changed and a lot of them had to do with the the idea of high art can come to print and can be on the news stand and he was a lot of that he sure did uh we have an update on that police attemp back on a St Louis Gay Bar uh last winter the bar PM you know the police crashed the car into the bar and then the owners come out and they beat one up and they arrest the other one and this was all done by an officer named raml Wallace well he's now left the department after 16 years he had a history of abuse but the owners are suing him and the department but the city the DA has yet to drop the criminal case against the co-owner uh Chad Mars despite the fact that it's obvious that this guy Wallace was the one in the wrong they never give up no all right international news yes take us to Tonga oh Tonga which as you may or may not know is a small independent island nation in the South Pacific part of the obviously the ring of fire all 171 Islands 171 very good um but basically it is part of the British Commonwealth it is part of the United Nations and they have just had their uh new chief of Justice Malcolm Leslie Bishop uh sworn in he happens to be out gay um now he's got a 4-year term ahead of ahead of him and he is also the Lord Chief Justice of the Supreme Court and the president of the land Court of Tonga so he's a pretty high ranking official there this is miraculous that he's an out gay man hailing from Wales in the UK simply because sodomi is illegal in Tonga and there there are lawyers there who are raising this that he may be a a criminal he's he's lived with his partner for 51 years he may be a criminal in the eyes of the nation also he it's going to be sticky for him if he has to oversee any court cases pertaining to sodomy such as the 2021 case when Tong is then chief justice sentenced an 18yearold male to 42 months in jail after sodomizing a 14-year old team that's that's that's abuse of a kid but you know that's different and you know they can also whip you in Tong or also that's uh penalty yikes well this is a guy who pursued a theology ree at Oxford and recently started translating the New Testament into Modern English these anti-sodomy laws though listen I mean if you're part of the United Nations and the Commonwealth of Nations you really do need to these need to be repealed let's see if William and Kate can do that for us and if he's been with his partner for 51 years I hope you were violating the sodomy law all right so this Tong take us to Serbia they had their pride March in Belgrade yes belgrad has had their uh Pride March under big big police protection heavy police protection in central Belgrade uh simply because there could be possible attacks from right-wing exist organizers said that previously in the week uh asants had assaulted a young gay man in the city and took away his rainbow flag so they were worried about that escalating Serbia is seeking EU membership again they need to if they're going to want to be part of of the the union they need to look at but no incidents were reported and the March included dozens of Russians who had immigrated over the Ukraine war in Russia of course Pride marches are absolutely forbidden right uh the Belgrade mayor opposed this March but the liberal government ministers did March and Western ambassadors participated yeah so the Paro Olympics are now done in Paris and if team lgbtq of the people who participated were a country the 28 medals that they won would place them 17th among nations better than Germany in Canada so here we have a picture of American Paris swimmer Christy Raleigh Crossley who led the out athletes with four medals two gold and two silver good job uh that's three medals in total ahead of the Tokyo par Olympics uh where the count was 25 so we're gaining in Zimbabwe two guys got in a dispute over their relationship over money these Darlings weren't thinking were they uh basically they're having what I think with some kind of domestic situation over infidelity and money somebody took money from the other one so they calling the the coppers and uh the police are saying what kind of evidence do you have for this and they're like here are our phones here's the proof and of course on the phones guess what's on there uh evidence of their sexual relationship with each other which is illegal in they are now subject to they're charged with sodomy and they face 14 years in prison yes 28y old and 25y old young young man and it's not right either the the catch22 situation here is who do you call when you're in trouble well you can't call the police can you Alan toring the very famous you know uh British guy who basically invented modern computers and and you know saved us in World War II he was in the 50s you know having a problem with a roommate who was stealing from him or something and he called the cops and the cops come and looking at it they're going what's going on here and he got arrested for buggery and was said you can have prison or you can have uh hormone treatments and that's what they that's what he subjected himself look it's terrible again these uh penalties in Zimbabwe date back to colonial era Risha and have just become more Draconian let's talk about uh somebody we lost this week in Ireland legendary journalist from uh originally from Derry feminist lgbtq rights campaigner and Irish nationalist Nell mccaffery who has died at the age of 80 uh she lived in a uh a nursing home in a rural area of Northwest Ireland uh she had been in declining health for a number of years following a stroke but listen she was very very uh we call her a real fire brand and you know I always think bit of a bit of a dyke and I mean that in a really good way you want something done get a dyke to do it uh she basically was a correspondent for the Irish time she's the author of six books including a memoir and here's a here's a statement from Irish Prime Minister Simon Harris in an Ireland trying to emerge from the shadows and find who it was NE mccaffity was one of the people who knew exactly who she was and wasn't afraid to enter every battle for gay and women's rights she was a founding member of the Irish women's Liberation movement that in 1971 carried condoms from Northern Ireland where they were legal to Dublin where they were still condoms were illegal and and they did this on the train and made a big show of it she was in the crowd in Derry on Bloody Sunday in 1972 when British soldiers fired on Irish demonstrators killing 14 um in the neighborhood where she grew up she supported the IRA uh she began her support for gay rights in the 70 and 70s she was lesbian herself but now I I have a close friend Bernard Lynch who lives in Ireland and lived next door to to her and she was with uh uh nula oalen for a lot for about 15 years and but uh Nell said I'm not coming out till my mother dies no and so so it's so odd for someone who was so Fierce uh about everything you know to say well on that score I'm G to you know everybody knows sort of you know nula and I are together but I'm not talking about it until my mother dies yeah it's not it's not an uncommon Story and there's a very PRI very very steep price to pay off in in coming out she was quite a Trailblazer um yeah uh my friend uh Bernard said that she was uh uh uh what did he say she was indeed formidable and did not suffer fools gladly no okay all right New York Times had a story about how the pope has fervent fans among Indonesia's transgender community that was a lovely story um on news that the pope uh was visiting Jakarta uh a group of trans women who lived in a homeless uh shelter or halfway house dressed up in their finest to go and catch a glimpse of him with a priest with a priest support they are devout Catholics by the way these women and even though they're pushed to the fringes of uh Indonesian Society they are in fact are finding the church to be a Haven for them so they were very excited about the Pope's four day visit they apparently 10 of them crammed into two different rental cars uh in the hope of seeing them but they were turned away by the police there and went home eventually one of them says I can still talk to Francis In My Dreams apparently the Jakarta Archbishop tells his priests to welcome transgender people into their parishes as part of a movement to respect human dignity and a Jesuit priest makes it a point to get his haircut with their group once a month uh 50 plus transwoman women attend a prayer service at the Cathedral um uh there uh two or two of them became cooking instructors there um so despite Francis saying that trans surgery is an a front to human dignity these trans people um they hear from him a message of inclusiveness they love him all right uh Buri and then buried within a big-time story on the workers in the Amazon rainforest who gather all the data on how trees and plants are capturing carbon this is a very important environmental story was the story of Loris sanama who had been climbing and measuring trees for almost 20 years nice she is the only transgender person in her Village in columia of uh palis and she says in our community trans hasine is something horrible something that shouldn't exist but by because I do science I prove I have a role and that there's no distinction between a man and a woman's work so they elected her chief of the village that's wonderful remarkable we have so many sad stories about what happens to trans people around the world that's a great one exactly in the Amazon um oh I've got some late breaking news from Australia I'll get this in very quickly if I can this is a landmark Court ruling has just come out uh an openly gay Member of Parliament Alex grenwich he's an independent in New South Wales has won a defamation case against Mark leam another state politician who was the leader of the right-wing One Nation uh he's been ordered to uh been awarded $140,000 about a tweet that defamed him because he was called dis disgusting by this uh Mr lean that's all he had to do is call him disgusting disgusting engages in disgusting sexual activities was the inference and uh and and uh basically this has been found in Australia to be defamation uh the Judgment establishes some case law now to protect the lgbtq community in public speech here a federal judge would reinstate you and say you free speech rights were being violated well you know the BBC they started including same-sex couples on their Strictly Come Dan ing show 5 years ago here's the couple that was on 5 years ago but now they've decided to after 5 years we're not going to have same-sex couples anymore do you know what's odd about this uh it is the 20th anniversary coming up of the show uh but uh there's been all of these uh reports against one of the male uh members there on the on the show who straight gvan perice all these women are leaving the show so why are they persecuting the gay couples when there's a different maybe to ract maybe to distract anyway uh several samesex couples have made it to the finals in 2019 2021 and 2023 in South Africa horrifying story yeah lesbian couple uh was shot to death in Edendale while getting into a taxi the suspect is the male ex partner of one of the women and the father of her child who couldn't accept the relationship and had harassed them in the past one one of them had filed for an order of protection uh but that these two women 28 and 22 were murdered and the uo network which is the regional lgbtq group said the brutal act highlights the deep-seated homophobia and violence that persists in South Africa the suspect has yet to be apprehended and this is a country that was the first in the world to add sexual orientation to its Constitution yeah 6our Drive do solve all the problems joerg no no arrests have been made uh what's happening with the impo well the big news on empo first of all everybody get your empo vaccine this new strain that's out there it's it's yes it's circulating in Africa and we need to get vaccines to them to contain it that's the big problem right now but it is spreading to the west and other places and and South America Asia all this kind of stuff and it's more transmissible and it's more deadly so get your two vaccines and New York has just made that easier the health commissioner um there he is James McDonald has authorized pharmacies to give you the empx vaccine without a prescription so it's not hard now just do it mhm okay and there's going to be a celebration of the late gay artist David wanovich is on his 70th birthday on Saturday September 14th at 5:00 p.m. at the New York City AIDS Memorial that's down there at 7th Avenue in 12th Street they're going to read from his Works play some music uh a new weapon has been developed uh in the fight against HIV a molecular mimic that invades the cell and steals essential proteins from the virus very clever it's promising results in monkeys and they're going to test it on some about five humans and it you'll get a single injection and the IDE is to interfere with hiv's normal life cycle MH now there's already treatments out there but this one could be you know a a game changer Game Changer yes I believe congratulations AR order for the two EV Hansen's uh Ben Platt has married uh his longtime love Noah on the right and uh Noah galin yes they had an epic epic uh wedding in on the weekend they were married on on Sunday in red haulk they had a Shabbat welcome dinner on the Friday night they had a bar hang at cell dog in the West Village on the Saturday night I think they had to sing along sort of Mari crisis style and they were married by Platt's longtime Rabbi and their moms at the ceremony performed a a duet of a Jewish wedding song well it was quite a wedding and Vogue Vogue magazine you said Vogue yeah Vogue magazine published 81 pictures of this wedding and if you link if you want to be on our email list or you're on our email list we'll send you the link and you can see all these fun pictures of their wedding yep on Sunday September 22nd at 3:00 um uh Eastern Time a a novel by the late gay activist Arie cantrowitz is going to be discussed by arie's longtime love of his life Larry mass and author Bill Goldstein it's a free event and it's going to be live streamed from New York's lgbtq Center the novel is called Song of Myself it's described as a trenchant novel for gay life in these rapidly devolving reactionary times sounds good how about Will Farrell I love this he's uh done a wonderful documentary with a trans friend it's called will and Harper it explores the Friendship of these uh long-term buddies as they embark on a road trip across the country after um Harper steel comes out as a transgender woman this will be on Netflix on September 27th it's getting rave reviews yeah I mean it's it's it's an interesting combination of somebody we know and trust will Ferell and uh it's a real life true life story and who doesn't like a road trip yeah it's coming out in time to stem some of the anti-trans haate that is being spread these days uh the you know they work together at SNL um and on uh I'm going to be on a forum on the U the late political scientist Ken Cheryl who died this past year um at Hunter College's Roosevelt house on September 19th uh at 5:30 that's 47 East 65th Street I'm going to be on a panel with people who worked and lived with him uh a uh a former city controller Scott Stringer and two other political scientists Patrick Keegan and Gabriel Magny and uh a state senator who was one of his students so it should be uh interesting and we're almost out of time any other thoughts for the week we did it look at that with with half a minute to spare uh it's been quite an exhausting week we were up very late after the debate Gathering our thoughts and uh it's uh obviously a lot of us can't wait for this to be over but it's never over folks I mean we're always going to have to work to make things better absolutely thank you for joining us it's been a lovely Shard yes and thank you for being with us and uh I'll be back 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