09:00AM Eastern time we're going to take you live there when they do but first we have something really special. >> The indictment for murder guilty indictment for murder guilty. >> Justice was done. It gave a voice to Maggie. >> Paul Murdoch who were brutally mowed down and murdered we can't bring him back but we can bring them justice. And it may be taken away. >> That was a moment, many of us all right here on Court TV Alec Murdock being found guilty of the murders of his wife Maggie and son Paul over a year later the conviction of the once prominent now does graced attorney is back in the headlines as the South Carolina Supreme Court has agreed to hear Murdoch's appeal. All centered around alleged misconduct of former clerk of court Becky Hill. ♪ >> Why did you think the jury would not very well have you communicated ♪ >> with jurors. >> I had not communicated with jurors about anything related to this trial at all. I've been in a court reporter for at least 14 years of his clerk of court for 3. And. You just get to where you kind See things happen as they progress in us again this is a gut feeling and that's that's all that I mean by that. >> Now jurors from his murder trial are breaking their silence on the jury tampering allegations. So why now why at this time so please to welcome in now a member of the deliberating panel. She was known as jersey for a long time and recently we've got to learn her full name when she did an interview with FOX News, Mandy Pearson she's joining us live this morning on the program Andy good morning to you thank you for coming on Court TV with us. Many tell me as as you sit here today, I'm sure people have to be asking you. >> You were people at home watching this may be wondering why come forward now and speak out now about this. >> I with Meyer's new book coming out. I just was. Going to be there with her and just some of the things that happen. >> Okay take a Nissan turn. My right your IRA Crosby who was known as the AG Lady for a long time she was dismissed from the deliberating panel because of speaking about the case to 3 she's writing a book he said. Yes ma'am And then the other thing you said in addition to that to support her and be there with her in the interview said some other things what other things Mandy. >> Other things like what do you mean. >> Well I was just asking you what you mean you said I asked you why speak out now in Houston. Well, partly Iris book to be there with her and then it's because of some other things I just want to know what those other things are. >> I guess it's kind of hard to I guess because says. They're trying to throw his were not part of this case, but they're trying to get him another uphill and they had an opportunity for us to come out there and so. And I just came out just to toe on my side. >> Edu were the only juror on the who said at the hearing conducted by Justice told of that you were improperly influenced by Becky Hill. I want to take a listen together to some of what you and this is where you discuss the point where you said back killed told you to watch his actions. >> Did you hear news Becky he'll make the comment about this case before your verdict. If yes, what did MS. Hill site. To watch his actions. Watch his >> To watch him closely. >> And then the the then asked to how. Statements influence your verdict. Which you answer that question here for us please. >> That she made it seem like he was you know already guilty. >> And so when. When you were deliberating. Walk us through that please are you saying that the statements affected your deliberations or were you unable to separate them from you know the facts and the evidence and you is the the oath you take a decision was just focus on was presented in I guess kind of explain to us how. How those statements might have been influenced your ultimate decision. >> voted and decided and then. And the other interview that some of the other jurors and some are just thinking about like everybody was ready to go everybody was ready to get it over with and. So then that's where I had voted. >> And I would welcome in your attorney Joe McMahon someone a friend of Court TV network been on many times before throughout the the progression of the Murdoch I told her viewers earlier and so you both know full disclosure we had a lot of Tech difficulties, I'm connecting with you both and we're also trying to connect with a Mira Crosby the AG Lady juror issue became known as well as Joe you represent her too. So Joe kind of take us back to when you came to represent both Mira and and Mandy and kind of walk us through how you. >> Guided them throughout the after the trial in I'm making notification Andy here notifications about improper influence. >> Sure good morning to I first became involved when Meyer Crosby ask if I could get the press off her back so to speak and and several late. Sometime thereafter again conversations with Mandy for the same purpose and talked with a couple of other jurors somewhere along in succeeding months. The defense began to contact jurors and that was in support of their ultimate motion for new trial. The defense contacted me I had I did not contact them. They asked if I would allow them to talk to these 2 jurors and any others that I was involved with. I made arrangements that didn't go to the interviewed them and they secured from both these ladies affidavits I will say this. >> About Myra her book. >> She is said on other programs and I regret shouldn't be on the day. Her writing a book was a matter of frustrations, not a book she began to write while she was on the jury unlike and the situation she obviously struggles with you a little bit this morning. television think being on television having being the center of attention make sure uncomfortable thinker affidavits and there are 2 of them speak for themselves. And and you know I sympathize with I think this is just heart. It's a difficult being in that very small community. But I think that that what she is explained it to me and I'm not trying to put words in her mouth or interpret for. But the sum total of her affidavit or that's a clerk of courts. Conversations with her and with the jury were such as to when influence them in a way to reach a guilty verdict that's my understanding from her that's what I think she told the court that's what you play in the affidavit and she said in a subsequent aftergood after the presented to justice so that she felt pressured. >> Stills will imposed upon her to reach a guilty verdict before she ever walking the jury and and then of course the jury room was a different kind of a crucible that there was pressure from both directions you. >> Joe appreciate that I have another this is a during that hearing with justice toll and where you're talking about Becky help pressuring you to speak to the media after the verdict, let's take a listen to that and to Becky Hills response. >> Immediately before she doesn't miss you pressure the jury to speak as a group 2 reporters from a television show. Was it is an accurate statement what she said. >> Yes, ma'am did you at all pressure the jurors to state or did you just tell them that that was their option to speak or not and here's the contact information. >> I did not pressure the jury to speak. Okc here with Becky Hill said they're under man to what your response to that. >> When we were deliberating it was more of like. >> She felt like. >> She was trying to get us to. like. That's the way I felt. I guess it's kind of hard to. >> To think about it the smokers and there they were ready to >> IM Indy a let's talk a little bit about. ♪ The jury unanimously voted guilty you were one of those guilty votes. At the time the judge asked all the jurors to raise their hand if they were in agreement with the You did. Then the judge even went ♪ through that polling of the members of the jury and asked all of you individually if you agreed with that you said, yes. Are you saying today here in now. >> All you no longer agree with the verdict that you made. >> I still had about the verdict even after whenever I was finally at home and started thinking about everything. I wish that I could go back and change it. >> But. >> In I can't so. >> Tell us please Mandy what makes you go back and wish you could change >> I still have more didn't get answered all right. So. I guess if I could go you know have. Go back and redo. That night then. Probably would have said not guilty. For what reason Mandy. Like I said in another you know they never found. Them are left undone I know they don't find them all the time. But it just felt like. They never looked for anybody else. >> I had a little difficulty ♪ >> hearing you did you referenced the murder weapons a moment ago. So what you're saying just in Joe's nodding I just wanted to make sure I was yes, Sir. Go ahead policeman. >> Yeah like I they. they never found them them are left and and I know like on the other interview. A lot of times they don't fun murder weapons. >> Do you think Alec Murdock disposed of the murder weapons. >> I can say that I have no idea. >> Tell me in in going to this trial. Being a deliberating juror, you know and was one thing and then all the aftermath of we're still in in in the aftermath right I mean we we may not even have a firm resolution depending on what the Supreme Court in South Carolina decides. And what's it been like for you give give us give all of our viewers watching at home an idea of how this trial has changed your life. >> It really hasn't changed my Much. I don't really pay too much attention to like social media. Because everybody is entitled to their own opinion. The only thing that's still kind of sticks with me with the trial the pictures pollen Maggie because they were. They are gruesome. That is basically the only thing. And like I said I. >> I don't really get on and I get on social media, but if I see anything that's about jersey. It really I ignore it. >> You're smart to do that and talking with your team. Jo mccauley can help guide you you know through all of this and what comes Mandy thank you for being so open in answering our questions this we really appreciate your time and Joe wanted to offer you the last word here is or anything else you think that's important for people to know about this process or for what or with what you're clients in humanity Pearson with us today and then my cars B a the quick wit the AG Lady, your other client who unfortunately we couldn't connect with this morning, you'd like us to know, yeah. >> Julie thanks 2 quick things I will make us a nation but I think it is really important. >> For. >> Viewers and and people to understand it's natural for people to have. >> To second and important decision they may. What Mandy what Myron have experienced here is a second guessing. That began with there concerns that the state did not prove its case. Before the jury room was every 100 by that year. They had questions then Morrow was then removed Mandy continued she had questions because of what I was told to her by the clerk of courts, she said under oath. She had questions going into the jury room so now today this morning still having questions. It's not like she woke up yes today decided maybe I made the wrong decision. She's had that concern that's why she's come to see fields as Meyer Crosby fields and other jurors testified and have talked with the defense and it experience there are expressed the same concerns. Now I will say secondarily. Responsible commentators should be focused on that jury tampering tampering element of this case. I know a commentator on your program yesterday these 2 jurors for coming forward criticize them for breaching their juror. Start talking to the clerk of court for saying that they talked to the 3rd quarter. That just is wrongheaded and it's just doesn't accurately reflect the system the first think the jurors were told by Judge Newman at the beginning of the trial. Your guide through this process, your liaison with the court will be the clerk of court. So it is quite natural when the clerk of court that person who's in charge of you for the next 6 weeks comes to you and ask questions as these ladies have said. >> Used her position to persuade as these ladies have said. There's nothing mysterious about that there's nothing untoward about there is nothing improper. These jurors responding to the person they've been told is in charge of that. So for a commentator a lawyer to say there's something wrong that's just shows a lack of knowledge about the process and I believe what was said. >> It wasn't that it was If my memory serves me correctly Joey attorney Eric bland was talking about was why now why now are your 2 clients coming forward why speaking has there been any influence anything at all that's occurred. You know from the time the trial and until this so it was more in the form of a But everybody up chance to to speak this is why we wanted to ask your clients directly we actually you know wanted to all to come on that day after we saw that on the FOX interview was done. There was an availability as I understood it with your clients and so I'm Eric who represents 6 of the other jurors just said that they. We're not improperly >> and anyway that the court isn't going consider anything being discussed on this program is only what's in the transcript says you know Joe at that they're going to consider as they make their decision for Allen it's been wonderful talking with the both would love to consider continue the conversation and if if you consider having in Mira pick another date that might work well for h