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an evil ancient and Powerful has returned we're really interested in a universe where there is ultimate Evil and there is Ultimate good but that doesn't mean it's that easy for everybody who lives within it because you our enemy [Music] lives good and evil are very clearly defined in hen and he has a very strong sense of right and wrong and that's present in all the work saon is the ultimate utilitarian he knows exactly how to heal the Middle Earth and no matter who he has to betray kill everyone else is just standing in the way he deceived me no gadriel you were blind the characters I always found myself the most drawn to are characters who aspires to do the right thing by doing the wrong thing that struggle is a struggle that I think we love the idea that almost every character in our show could grapple with at some point oh what have you done to me calbos a means to an end tragedy is when he realizes it's too late to redeem himself drama can be really instructive for us when we can sort of see our own flaws in someone else and maybe have a way to think about recalibrating these are tolk's characters and we wanted to take cues from him in how we reimagined them for the story would you abandon them to their Doom but when the Darkness Falls there are always some who rise forth [Music] [Music]