[Music] I think it's pretty bad I mean I think that um he he was very very concerned about it I'll tell a story I never never told I think too publicly before but I I remember that evening when Anderson Cooper uh interviewed um mcdouall so that is George Conway of course the ex-husband of Kellan Conway uh who's still very much in the Trump circles talking about Karen McDougall so this is not Stormy Daniels but is about another woman at Playboy model who alleged an affair with Donald Trump a more significant affair she alleges that it went on for 15 months and she was interviewed about that and he is now able to provide uh information firstand information from what happened in the immediate aftermath of that interview take a look I was sitting at dinner with my ex-wife with Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump and the phone rings and ianka goes into the kitchen answers the phone oh it's Daddy and what did daddy want to know whether they were watching C McDougall so he he was you know he was very very concerned about it yeah I remember talking to um Chris Christie around the time that Michael Cohen was ens snared um and and this was after Muller had had rolled up papadopolis and and all the other folks and he said oh no no no no this this is the thing that really scares Trump this is the thing that really endangers him all the things that Cohen kept quiet and you can sort of understand why that would be and by the way let's not get like too far ahead of ourselves it is conceivable I will grant that Karen McDougall who apparently has you know sort of like contemporaneous information sort of buttressing the allegations she's making but let's say that she doesn't or whatever that she made up the entire thing the 15-month affair uh and she does this interview in that case you could be Donald Trump and you could see that this is going on and worry about what your family would be thinking if it was a false allegation now my personal opinion is that it is not a false allegation and that this guy is he's calling up his family because the things that he has done have once again been revealed publicly and the thing about it that's so amazing is you know you know I was gonna say he must have known but let's bear in mind he's a narcissist so maybe he must not have known but I would have said he must have known when he decided to run for president that some of the stuff that he has done and said would come out and he must have thought for a second how will this make the people that I am traditionally supposed to love how would that make them feel and I don't know I don't know now McDougall is not involved directly in the Stormy Daniels case although in what will be revealed about the deal that Trump apparently had with the national inquir some of that will certainly come out but just in case you're not familiar with this or you don't remember remember this particular case since Donald Trump did face many of these sorts of accusations and allegations back in 2018 Ken McDougall told CNN she had an extramarital affair with the former president beginning in 2006 he had at that point been married to his third wife uh for about a year uh according to her the affair involved having sex with Trump many dozens of times and let me just pause for one second to say dear God and occurred in multiple locations including at a golf tournament in Lake Tahoe a private golf club in New Jersey as well as Trump Tower in New York city so kind of all over the place uh she alleged that she was brought in through the back entrance so some details there anyway despite the uh the uh the fact that Trump has denied from the very beginning that this uh hasn't happened uh the New York prosecution team has cited evidence of payments made to McDougall by Trump and again it is possible see how needlessly fair always going to be and never get any credit for it uh that he is paying her off not because it actually happened but because maybe people would think it would happen that is possible I will grant you that possibility I just want I don't I just want to know I want to know what the evidence is and again it's not going to be a part of this this this is we're discussing this to give you into his state of mind about these sorts of things and how it affects his family but it's not going to be part like like an integral part of the actual trial and and honestly it just seems like such an injustice that coming out of the literally dozens of allegations that were made in 2016 and following that only a couple of them actually got even a chance at Justice a chance at being seriously heard let alone for those you know who are alleging actual crimes because certainly Affairs were alleged but the vast majority were non-consensual there were claims of non-consensual sexual assault effectively and very very few of them ever got even like a moment of consideration EEG Carol obviously found something like justice at least financial and Stormy Daniels now has her day court and we'll see what becomes of that um but Karen McDougall is sort of just floating out there in The Ether so anyway that's all the information we have from uh from uh George Conway uh and I appreciate the information that he can still provide I will say at this point dude cut your hair seriously as a person who has often had bad hair and arguably right now does you got to cut your hair that's just not working for [Music] you members make a difference here at tyt you help make the show happen and we see you in the chat with your loyalty badge click the join button to become a member today