CASUALTY EVENTS WE'VE HAD IN THIS COUNTRY SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, ACCORDING TO THE GUN VIOLENCE ARCHIVE, THIS IS SUCH A SICKENING HABIT NOW THAT WE HAVE IN THIS COUNTRY WHAT DO YOU FEELING TODAY AS WE REPORT ON THIS YET AGAIN, THE FIRST THING I DID WAS I LOOK BACK AT AN OP-ED PIECE THAT I WROTE BACK IN FEBRUARY 2018 AFTER PARKLAND SHOOTING BECAUSE ALL MY SHOW I DON'T KNOW IF A LOT OF PEOPLE REMEMBER THIS OR NOT, BUT I PROBABLY HAD THE MAJORITY OF THEN COLUMBINE SEVERAL THE SCHOOL VICTIMS CAME ABOARD THE SHOW. >> I ACTUALLY WENT TO SHORTEN AFTER THE MASS SHOOTING THERE. I WAS A MARYVILLE WHOLE CHECK AND WASHINGTON STATE I LOOKED INTO THE EYES OF THOSE KIDS AND MY IBP STARTED WITH NEVER AGAIN AGAIN, THAT WAS BACK IN 2018, BUT IT REALLY SHOULD BE NEVER AGAIN AGAIN, AGAIN, AGAIN, AGAIN, AGAIN, AGAIN, AGAIN, AGAIN AGAIN DO HAVE GONE TO THE HOUSE, BUT SHE CAN HAVE ACTUALLY STORM REALLY. >> WELL NOW IT'S TIME TO START HOLDING THE PEOPLE. FOR CHILDREN LIKE THIS. LET'S START HOLDING THESE PARENTS MORE ACCOUNTABLE. LET'S START LOCKING THOSE PARENTS UP BY 15, 20 YEARS THEN WE'RE GOING TO START SEEING AT LEAST RESPONSIBILITY IN THE GUN OWNERSHIP WORLD. >> YEAH. I MEAN, THERE IS THAT PART OF IT. I MEAN THERE'S SO MANY ASPECTS OF THIS THAT ARE JUST I DON'T WANT TO SAY MIND-BOGGLING BECAUSE IN A WAY, WE ARE SEEING THE SAME PATTERNS HAPPENING OVER AND OVER AGAIN. BUT THAT PART OF IT, THE PARENT'S RESPONSIBILITY, LAW ENFORCEMENT, WHEN THEY HEAR A REPORT, SOMEWHAT CREDIBLE WITH A CHILD WHO HAS ACCESS TO WEAPONS DO THEY HAVE OPTIONS? ARE THEY UTILIZING THEIR OPTIONS? WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE YOU KNOW WHAT THEY'RE SAYING? >> THE WHITE HOUSE WHEN I WAS THERE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, THEY WERE VERY FOCUSED ON THIS PRESIDENT AND VICE PRESIDENT WERE ABLE TO GET A BIPARTISAN IS A VERY SMALL BY PATTERSON. GANG CONTROLLED LEGISLATION PASSED. BUT YOU KEEP HEAR THE SAME REFRAIN. I HEARD SOMEBODY SAY IT TODAY. IT CAN'T HAPPEN HERE. WE NEVER THOUGHT IT COULD HAPPEN HERE I MEAN, EVERY COMMUNITY IN AMERICA NOW HAS TO WRESTLE WITH THE FACT THAT IT CAN HAPPEN ANYWHERE. AND ALL OF US ARE ONE SECOND AWAY FROM GETTING A PHONE CALL THAT WE'D NEVER WANT TO GET. SO IT'S AMAZING THAT A VERY SMALL SLIVER OF THE COUNTRY THAT HOLDS THE SECOND AMENDMENT ORTHODOXY THAT IS SO DIFFERENT THAN WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE'S IS HOLDING THE REST OF US IN A POSITION WHERE WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING TO FIX A PROBLEM. THERE'S REALLY JUST A UNIQUELY AMERICAN PROBLEM AND IT'S AMAZING THAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO FIGURE THIS OUT. >> I MEAN, IT LESS I YOU KNOW, I TODAY DROPPED OFF MY DAUGHTER AT SCHOOL AND THE WEEK BEFORE WE HAD SORT OF YOUR PARENTS COME IN AND IN SCOPE AT THE SCHOOL, TALK TO THE TEACHERS. THE VERY FIRST THING I LOOKED AT WAS THE SECURITY SHE'S PRETTY THREE IF SHE'S PRETTY THREE, BUT THAT'S THE VERY FIRST THING WE LOOK AT AND I AGREE WITH WITH ONE TELL YOU SOMETHING HAS TO CHANGE I DON'T I DON'T AGREE WITH YOU THAT IT'S A SLIM MAJORITY ARE SMALL FRACTION OF THE COUNTRY BELIEVES IN THE SECOND AMENDMENT. I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE BELIEVE IN THE SECOND KNOW, IS THAT ABOUT BELIEVING SECOND AMENDMENT? THE QUESTION IS WHETHER OR NOT WE BELIEVE THAT YOU'RE RIGHT TO OWN A GUN IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN MY RIGHT TO LIVE I WENT TO SCHOOL. >> WHERE WE HAD METAL DETECTORS TO GET INTO SCHOOLS. I MEAN, THIS IS A LONG, LONG, LONG HISTORY THAT WE'VE HAD. I MEAN, I WENT TO SCHOOL IN THE LATE 80s. WE HAD METAL DETECTORS, SO I MEAN, MY PARENTS MAYBE GO TO A DIFFERENT SCHOOL THANK THAT WE HAD 300 MILLION GUNS IN AMERICA. LET'S START UNDERSTANDING. I KNOW THE PRESIDENT HAS WAS TALKING TO WERE THE VICE PRESIDENT IS TALKING ABOUT A BUYBACK WE'RE GOING TO BUY BACK 100 MILLION GUNS. MAY KNOW WHAT HAPPENED AFTER THE PARKLAND SHOOTING I DID 22 YEARS IN THE MILITARY. I LIKED THE GUY HAD 16 GUNS HOW MANY WE HAVE NOW? ZIPPITY DO THAT IT'S MY RESPONSIBILITY TO HELP FAMILIES LIKE YOURS. >> SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY. IT'S THESE PEOPLE CLAIM I HAD AR 15s. I HAD SIMPLE QUOTA MAC TENS, HAD TEN MILLIMETER, 9 MILLION FAMILIES WHY DON'T HAVE THOSE MANY GUNS? YEAH. I LOVE BE ABLE TO GO SHOOT AND PLANK PLANK BLAKE BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S NOW TIME FOR US TO START LOOKING TO THE FUTURE. STOP LOOKING TO THE PAST, BUT MAJDAL, YOU ARE RESPONSE KNOW JOHN BACK THE GUN'S THEN WHAT WHAT WHAT IS THE SOLUTION? >> THEN THE SOLUTION IS FIRST OFF, THIS 13-YEAR-OLD BOY CLEARLY HAD SOME MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES. >> IF HE WAS WRITING STORIES ABOUT DUAL DURING A SCHOOL SHOOTING A YEAR AGO AND NO ONE PROVIDED HIM WITH THE SERVICES HE NEEDED. ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS IN THIS COUNTRY YOU GOING TO HEAR IT FOR THE NEXT FOUR OR FIVE DAYS, RAHEL, WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF PEOPLE WHO ARE MENTALLY WILL START PAYING TO TAKE CARE OF PEOPLE WHO ARE MENTALLY ILL WE HAVE GOT TO ADDRESS MENTAL ILLNESS AND WE'RE NOT THE ONLY COUNTRY WHERE WE MENTALLY ILL KIDS. I MEAN, THIS WHOLE MENTALLY ILL ISSUE THAT OH, THESE KIDS ARE MENTALLY ILL. OF COURSE, THEY'RE MENTALLY ILL, BUT, YOU KNOW, WORLD'S THEIR MENTALLY ILL OR MENTALLY ILL AND ENGLAND ARE MOUNTING LEGAL IN FRANCE ARE MENTALLY ILL ALL OVER THE WORLD. AND YET THIS IS THE ONLY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD WHERE THIS HAPPENS. AND I'M OLD ENOUGH TO REMEMBER COLUMBINE WHERE THIS WAS FRONT PAGE NEWS FOR DAYS, IF NOT WEEKS, IF NOT MONTHS ON END. AND NOW WE SEE THIS ON A DAILY WEEKLY, MONTHLY BASIS AND WE JUST DRAWING QUESTIONS ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS REALLY MATTERING TO THE AMERICAN PUBLIC. I MEAN, YEARS AGO WHEN PARKLAND HAPPENED, I THOUGHT, WOW, THIS IS IT. THERE'S NO WAY WE CAN I MEAN, EVERYONE DID KNOW WAY WE CAN COUNTENANCE THESE KIDS. BUT LOOK AT THIS POLLING FROM JUST A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO SO THIS IS REALLY FASCINATING. WHEN YOU ASK AMERICANS WHAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE TO THEM? LOOK AT WHERE GUN VIOLENCE SHOWS UP. >> YOU'VE NORMALIZED. IT'S ALMOST AT THE VERY BOTTOM I MEAN, THAT WAS ACTUALLY GENUINELY SURPRISING TO ME GIVEN THAT THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY FOR WHOM THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST THE KIDS WHO ARE IN SCHOOL, IT'S THEIR PARENTS WHO ARE DROPPING THEM OFF AND THEIR GRANDPARENTS WHO WANT THEM HOME. I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE THAT A SOLUTION THERE NEEDS TO BE SOLUTIONS. IT'S HOW DO WE GET THERE. AND I THINK MANY OF US IT'S TABLE VERY MUCH DISAGREE ON HOW WE GET THERE. BUT THERE IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVEN'T ADDRESSED AND THIS IS A WASHINGTON POST STATISTIC THAT SHOWS 86% OF MASS SHOOTINGS HAPPEN IN GUN-FREE ZONES. SO MONTEL, YOU WERE SAYING HOW YOU USED TO HAVE A NUMBER OF FIRE I MEAN, IT'S LARGELY WHAT SCHOOLS I MEAN, SCHOOLS, PARKS, LARGE, PRETTY ONE PLUS THIS YEAR IN SCHOOLS ALONE IS ONE KIDS WOULD THINK THAT THAT'S AN INDICTMENT ON GUN-FREE ZONES. I THINK THAT'S THAT'S PEOPLE ARE NOT THEY'RE NOT GETTING THE GUNS FROM THE SCHOOLS, THEY'RE BRINGING THE GUNS IN, OF COURSE, WAS I WOULD LIKE SOMEBODY WHO IS A RESPONSIBLE GUN OWNER LIKE MONTEL WAS TO HAVE A FIREARM AND NOT BE SITTING DUCK WHERE THESE KIDS AND THESE ADULTS AND PARKS AND OTHER PUBLIC SINCE UVALDE. >> I'M SORRY, WE HAD PEOPLE IN UVALDE WITH GUNS AND GUESS WHAT HAPPENED. THEY RAN FROM THE GUNFIRE BUT THAT'S A FAILURE OF LAW AND SHE'S DOING MORE GUNS INTO THIS EQUATION IS NOT GOING TO SAVE ANYBODY'S LIFE. LET'S BE CLEAR. IT WAS A LAW ENFORCEMENT SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER THAT THE STOP THE SHOOTING TODAY WITH A GUN. >> OKAY. BUT WAIT A SECOND, CORRECT. AFTER THIS KID ALREADY OPENED FIRE, AND KILLED FOUR PEOPLE IN OFFICER IN A TRAINED OFFICER MAKES LOT OF SENSE. THE QUESTION IS THAT I THINK YOU'RE RAISING IS SHOULD WE BE TRAINING, EQUIPPING TEACHERS TO HAVE GUNS IN THE