Healthcare the elimination of private insurance now we learned today Jesse made this point what we're going to pay for sex change surgery not only for criminals which we knew about but now for illegal immigrants I think America when they hear these positions you can't say illegal immigrant you can't say the word radical Islamic terrorism if a lot of this comes out tonight I think that will be devastating for her and it won't her demeanor won't matter and if Donald Trump Trump stays measured is not impacted by any negativity she throws at him and how he refers to her and stays calm I think it it could definitely be a big night for him you know Sean uh a lot of times moderators do make a difference some of the best moderators fall back into the wallpaper and don't become the story Martha there you go you and Martha make the best moderator you know well thank you uh former president was complimentary of Jake Tapper and Dana Bash in CNN um in David Mur and Lindsey Davis who we haven't seen in in a moderating situation um he has been skeptical obviously of ABC uh what do you think heading into this the role of moderators and and what this looks like tonight I think there there is a lot at stake for ABC Disney in this debate um we saw the media Research Center they came out with a study since K became the nominee 100 stories on ABC's World News Tonight hosted by David mure uh 100% positive coverage for kamla 93% negative coverage for Donald Trump that will be on display they they have their own issues that they will deal with because ha look we're pretty divided country half the country would be very unhappy if in fact they spend their time going after Donald Trump and more importantly if they don't do the job of asking the questions that kamla Harris and her team have been ducking and dodging and and voiding the entire time what what is so I I think that there's been a great disservice to her by her campaign by not allowing her to do more interviews 16 minutes and 29 seconds that was not particularly impressive to me uh with her her safety blanket with her Tim Walls I I was not impressed her saying well my values are the same doesn't answer if she supports the green New Deal Banning fracking and Drilling and the elimination of Private health care and and you know free health care education and and everything else now sex change operations for illegals and convicted felons these are real issues that America needs to get answers to if ABC wants any credibility at the end of this night they have to go there they have to ask those questions if not I don't know maybe that's ABC's way of saying they don't want conservatives to go to Disney theme parks that's that's their prerogative hey Sean now Brit has a question for you here hold on Brit Sean do you think uh that uh that Donald Trump can can make the case on her as well as you just did I think you could do a better job Brit you're asking me uh a question I'm I I wouldn't have the pressure of being in that Spotlight but you you did make the point earlier and I really agreed with you that Donald Trump is a known quantity do I think that she will be able to Rattle him in any way no I I would argue right now that chance is 0.001% do I think he will be respectful I do do I think he will passionately prosecute the case against her I believe he's fully familiar with it and especially in light of some new developments today look we we now discovered Brit think about this that she's for decriminalizing for personal use hard drugs that would be crack fentanyl heroin cocaine we didn't know this before I didn't know this before last night and I think that has to come up in a debate like this but I do believe the president is prepared and very well versed on a record and I believe that his demeanor he's always said he can be presidential what he wants to be and I would expect that tonight you think that'll be the the stand he takes not the not the brawler but the but the but the person of presidential demeanor I think so he look he's I think there's Donald Trump there's rally Donald Trump there's Town Hall Donald Trump and then then this presidential debate Donald Trump and I think that that person for example I thought Joe Biden in spite of obvious cognitive issues in the last debate there was a point during that debate when he went very very hard at Donald Trump and Donald Trump parried it away and and just ignored it I think it definitely works to his Advantage with the microphone being off the only debate I'd have any criticism that he was ever a part of is when he had the first debate with Joe bid and I thought he spoke too much and I think that format is is better for him overall and I think that if it's water off at Ducks back that's half the battle for him tonight I think kamla's challenge will be you know answering those hard questions those very radical position she has staked out that she's not had to answer to here to four which is a big media epic fail in my view we'll see if ABC allows that tonight may I get a word in Sean sorry I love teasing you about that well the here's the here's the problem is that she's been so vibed out um over the last you know several weeks now it's you know she's been really cool on you know kind of mamala and done her recipe thing which is kind of fun and done the Spotify playlist and Doug eats pretzels and so that's all cool but now is where the rubber meets the road so I think to Jesse's Point she has got to go on the attack she has to show a different side of her self if she does not do that I think voters are going to continue to drift toward president Trump precisely because as as Brett and I were talking about earlier these cross tabs on this Harvard Harris poll that just came out 63% of Voters believe the economy is on the wrong track 48% say their financial situation is getting worse 42% named inflation the biggest uh threat facing the country I mean those those numbers are not going to change because you know KLA Harris you know comes across as you know a nice person they're only going to change if there's a reason for people to say okay she has the answer to turn it around I don't see that happening but you know anything's possible in politics how we've been doing this a long time and and we've we've watched a lot of presidential races Laura can you name a presidential candidate ever in history where they had said so many things that I would argue that would make them unelectable as president and the John mlin poll was a little bit frightening because between 70 and 82% of Americans they are not aware of a lot of the things we said about her positions on immigration uh about sex change operations paid for by taxpayers for criminals and illegal immigrants you know Free Housing Healthcare education or no fracking no drilling how do you walk away from that 93 trillion Americans are getting poorer under real quick how do you walk that back look I don't disagree with a lot of the things that have been said that both of these candidates have changed their minds on things and I I just think at the end of the day we're deciding about in choosing a president and her I don't disagree with any of her challenges but remember most people don't know her so how she responds we were on your sure early bre and I thought Harris fauler said something so pressing about what happens at the beginning of this debate how do they approach each other out of the gate so many Americans are going to be watching and finally I'm going to be watching most closely how and when and how definitively and substantively that she separate herself from Joe Biden on energy security issues fracking in Pennsylvania uh the Border National Security even as we think about economic issues so she'll have to defend that and it will have to be to your point Laura it'll have to be credible and uh we got about 11 minutes to see what's going to happen here Sean final word before we uh we bounce here before the debate well I would I would respond gently to my friend Harold and say she's not just separating herself from Joe Biden she's got to separate herself from herself here she's the one that said no fracking she's the one that said no drilling she in August of 23 said B we call that bomic and we're proud of it and yet most Americans as Laura rightly pointed out you know every store they go to the price they pay for everything is through the roof so I think that debating herself here is maybe a bigger challenge than separating herself from Joe Biden in my view Sean we'll be checking in right after to see what you think thank thanks a lot from the spin room yeah we're just minutes away from the big beginning of this debate tonight the presidential debate is about to kick off in Philadelphia Pennsylvania may be the most important state in the nation when it comes to this election the keys to victory for both of these candidates as we cap off our pregame coverage [Music] next 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with RFK Jr earlier a few ago I tried to ask RFK Jr a few times uh whether he was worried about Michigan because he has to stay on the ballot there now if that was going to hurt hurt the former president he did not want to answer that question let's talk about the former president and how he's feeling as he walks onto the debate stage tonight I am told by campaign officials that he's cool calm collected and the strategy tonight Brett is to try to force kamla Harris to own up to all of these failed policies in their mind uh mind for the past four years he's going to try to make that happen tonight on the stage Brett all right Aisha thank you all right let's bring in Kelly and Conway and Jessica tarlo kellyanne if you could say one thing to former president Trump right now he's minutes away from walking on that stage what would it be you're fighting for the American people you're not fighting with kamla Harris treat her like a worthy opponent the way you did Hillary Clinton Hillary didn't really treat him like one huffing and puffing rolling her eyes here and there calling his supporters irredeemable and deplorable so don't worry about how Harris got there worry about stopping her from where she wants to go the Oval Office okay Jessica same question to you you have one thing to say to vice president Harris before this debate she's watching I know she is what would you tell I would tell tell her to be just like she was in Chicago I on the priz the independent voter the swing voter the undecided voter who isn't interested in me issue they want to hear about foreign policy they want to hear a cogun economic plan they don't want the name calling the tit fortat maybe they don't even want to hear that much about how you were a prosecutor or he was a convicted felon just do whatever you can to attract that Pennsylvania voter and be polite and hopefully Trump will be the same and it'll all be over 90 minutes Kellan what about the state of the race you ran the race at one point uh in 2016 and it's in Pennsylvania this is the swing EST swing state this race is really tight and he's doing better than he did in 2016 or 2020 he is on This Day in 2020 he was negative -7 against Joe Biden nationally and against Hillary about 2.8% Pennsylvania has always been tight the reason we made it our reach state in 2016 and kept going back there with Trump and other surrogates is because the messages that were winning in Ohio and Iowa two states that President Obama carried twice were winning him those States overwhelmingly we took the same messages to a lot of the workers in Pennsylvania and honed in on spe specific Industries manufacturing coal mining construction and so he fracking of course and he was able to speak to them we had a strategy can't eliminate the deficits for the Republican candidate in those collar counties around Philadelphia but you can mitigate them and then you run up the score in Western Pennsylvania and some other Pockets uh my advice to KLA Harris is show up I think Trump and Vance have really tightened up we go around the horn here yeah I want to bring Dana in Dana one of the structures here is that they're not allowed to ask each other questions so if either of these candidates wants to get something in that they're not being asked it's going to be tricky for them to get there I I mean I don't know if it's true but Brian stelter of CNN just tweeted that it is possible that ABC will open up the mics if there's a big moment so I don't know what the rules are and how they're going to deal with that that's possibility she has been paying the price for being so far left four years ago she's still paying that today but she has a cash Advantage right now and it could work Jesse well decriminalizing heroin and giving voting rights to serial rapists in any normal race this woman shouldn't be the nominee but she is and so Donald Trump's going to have to put her on defense but speak poetically about the restoration of the American dream make sure you can buy a house make sure you can have a family make sure you can have Safety and Security those things are slipping away fast under her and he needs to put that Within Reach again Harold uh where she's had slippage is with independent voters some black voters Latino voters what does she do to get them back in her Corner tonight talk about the future give us a sense of how she will govern that may be a little different than what we've seen over the last three and a half years acknowledge a mistake or two and talk about how you're going to get better and make things better and contrast it with the guy standing next to you Lauren people are making less money when you look at real median household income today than they did in December of 2019 before the pandemic the story of this election is the economy people's pocketbooks are not as full their optimism is not where they want it to be they want hope for the future the pandemic the story of this election is the economy people's pocketbooks are not as full their optimism is not where they want it to be they want hope for the future to Harold's point they want to change I think they want to change Britt 15 seconds there a test for ABC News as well it's not the place where I work for 23 years some your doubts about it we're going to find out [Music] now it is a face off in Philadelphia vice president kamla Harris and former president Trump about to take the debate stage at the national Constitution it is a critical moment in this race for the White House just two months before election day in America good evening everybody sener it is a critical moment in this race for the White House just two months before election day in America good evening everybody I'm artha MacCallum and I'm Brett Bear the ABC News presidential debate begins in just moments thank you for watching here on Fox News the performances tonight could really be the difference between winning and losing in November and think how much has changed in 75 days stay with us for the postgame analysis and reaction from the spin room then Sean Hannity takes over at 11:00 p.m. eastern time we're going to take you to Philadelphia now and the entire debate right here on Fox post analysis after keep it here good evening I'm David M and thank you for joining us for tonight's ABC News presidential debate we want to welcome viewers watching on ABC and around the world tonight vice president kamla Harris and president Donald Trump are just moments away from taking the stage in this unprecedent at race for president and I'm lindsy Davis tonight's meeting could be the most consequential event of their campaigns with election day now less than two months away for vice president kamla Harris this is her first debate since President Biden withdrew from the race on July 21st of course that decision followed his debate against President Donald Trump in June since then this race has taken on an entirely new Dynamic and that brings us to the rules of tonight's debate 90 minutes with two commercial breaks no topics or questions have been shared with the campaigns the candidates will have two minutes to answer questions and this is written notes aloud there is no audience here tonight in this Hall at the national Constitution Center this is an intimate setting for two candidates who have never met president Trump won the coin toss he chose to deliver the final closing statement of the evening vice president Harris selected the podium to the right so let's now welcome the candidates to the stage vice president kamla Harris and president Donald Trump kamla Harris Let's Have a good debate see you have fun thank you welcome to you both it's wonderful to have you it's an honor to have you both here tonight good evening we are looking forward to a spirited and thoughtful debate so let's get started I want to begin tonight with the issue that voters repeatedly say is their number one issue and that is the economy and the cost of living in this country vice president Harris you and president Trump were elected four years ago and your opponent on the stage here tonight often asks his supporters are you better off than you were four years ago when it comes to the economy do you believe Americans are better off than they were four years ago so I was raised as a middle- class kid and I am actually the when comes to the economy do you believe Americans are better off than they were four years ago so I was raised as a middle class kid and I am actually the only person on this stage who has a plan that is about lifting up the middle class and working people of America I believe in the ambition the aspirations the dreams have a a shortage of of homes and housing and the cost of housing is too expensive for far too many people we know that young families need support to ra have a a shortage of of homes and housing and the cost of housing is too expensive for far too many people we know that young families need support to raise their children and I intend on extending a tax cut for those families of $6,000 which is the largest child tax credit that we have given in a long time so that those young families can afford to buy a crib buy a car seat buy clothes for their children my passion one of them is small businesses I was actually my mother raised my sister and me but there was a woman who helped raise us we call her our second mother she was a small business owner I love our small business my plan is to give a $50,000 tax deduction to Startup small businesses knowing they are part of the backbone of America's economy my opponent on the other hand his plan is to do what he has done before which is to provide a tax cut for billionaires and big corporations which will result in $5 trillion doll to America's deficit my opponent has a plan that I call the Trump's sales tax which would be a 20% tax on every about $4,000 more a year because of his policies and his ideas about what should be the backs of middle class people paying for tax cuts for billionaires president Trump I'll give you two minutes first of all I have no sales tax that's an incorrect statement she knows that uh we're doing tariffs on other countries other countries are going to finally after 75 years pay us back for all that we've done for the world and the Tariff will be substantial in some cases I took in billions and billions of dollars as you know from China in fact they never took the Tariff off because it was so much money they can't it would totally destroy everything that they've set out to do they're taking in billions of dollars from China and other places they've left the tariffs on when I had it I had tariffs and yet I had no inflation uh look we've had a terrible economy because inflation has which is really known as a country Buster it breaks up countries we have inflation like very few people have ever seen before probably the worst in our nation's history we were at 21% but that's being generous because many things are 50 60 70 and 80% higher than they were just a few years ago this has been a disaster for people for the middle class but for every class on top of that we have millions of people pouring into our country from prisons and jails from mental institutions and insane asylums and they're coming in and they're taking jobs that are occupied right now by African-Americans and Hispanics and also unions unions are going to be affected very soon and you see what's happening you see what's happening with towns throughout the United States you look at Springfield Ohio you look at Aurora in Colorado they are taking over the towns they're taking over buildings they're going in violently these are the people that she and Biden led into our country and they're destroying our country they're dangerous they're at the highest level of criminality and and we have to get them she and Biden led into our country and they're destroying our country they're dangerous they're at the highest level of criminality and we have to get them out we have to get them out fast I created one of the greatest economies in the history of our country I'll do it again and even better we are going to get to immigration and border security during this debate but uh I would like to let vice president Harris respond on the economy here well I would love to let's talk about what Donald Trump left us Donald Trump left us the worst unemployment since the Great Depression Donald Trump left us the worst Public Health epidemic in a century Donald Trump left us the worst attack on our democracy since the Civil War and what we have done is clean up Donald Trump's mess what we have done and what I intend to do is build on what we know are the aspirations and the hopes of the American people but I'm going to tell youall in this debate tonight you're going to hear from the same old tired Playbook a bunch of Lies Grievances and name calling what you're going to hear tonight is a detailed and dangerous Plan called project 2025 that the former president intends on implementing if he were elected to again I believe very strongly that the American people want a president who understands the importance of bringing us together knowing have so much more in common than what separates us and I pledge to you to be a president for all Americans president Trump I'll give you a minute here to respond number one I have nothing to do as you know and as she knows better than anyone I have nothing to do with project 2025 uh that's out there I haven't read it I don't want to read it purposely I'm not going to read it this was a group of people that got together they came up with some ideas I guess some good some bad but it makes no difference I have nothing to do everybody knows I'm an open book everybody knows what I'm going to do cut taxes very simp substantially and create a great economy like I did before we had the greatest economy we got hit with a pandemic and the pandemic was not since 1917 where 100 million people died has there been anything like it we did a phenomenal job with the pandemic we handed them over a country where the economy and where the stock market was higher than it was before the pandemic came in nobody's ever seen anything like it we made ventilators for the entire world we got gowns we got we did things that nobody thought possible and people give me credit for rebuilding the military they give me credit for a lot of things but not enough credit for the great job we did with the pandemic but the only jobs they got were bounceback jobs these were jobs bounceback and it bounced back and it went to their benefit but I was the one that created them they know it and so does everybody else vice president Harris I'll let you respond so Donald Trump has no plan for you and when you look at his economic plan it's all about about tax breaks for the richest people I am offering what I describe as an opportunity economy and the best economists in our country if not the world have reviewed our relative plans for the future of America what Goldman Sachs has said is that Donald Trump's plan would make the economy worse mine would strengthen the economy what the Wharton School has said is Donald Trump's plan would actually explode the deficit 16 mbel laurates have described his economic plan as something that would increase inflation and by the middle of next year would invite a recession you just have to look at where we are and where we stand on the issues and I'd invite you to know that Donald Trump actually has no plan for you because he is more interested in defending himself than he is in looking out for you that's just a sound by they gave her that to say look I went to the Wharton School of finance and many of those professors the top professors think my plan is a brilliant plan it's a great plan it's a plan that's going to bring up our our worth our value as a country it's going to make people want to be able to go and work and uh create jobs and create a lot of good solid money for our for our country and just to finish off uh she doesn't have a plan she copied Biden's plan and it's like four sentences like Run Spot Run four sentences that are just oh we'll try and lower taxes she doesn't have a plan take a look at her plan she doesn't have a plan Mr President I do want to drill down on something you both brought up uh the vice president brought up your tariffs you responded and let's drill down on this because your plan is what she calls is essentially a national sales tax your proposal calls for tariffs as you pointed out here on Foreign imports across the board you recently said that you might double your plan imposing tariffs up to 20% on Goods coming into this country as you know many economists say that with tariffs at that level costs are then passed on to the consumer vice president Harris has argued it'll mean higher prices on gas food clothing medication arguing it costs the typical family nearly $4,000 a year do you believe Americans can afford higher prices because of tariffs they're not going to have higher prices what's going to have and who's going to have higher prices is China and all of the countries that have been ripping us off for years I charged I was the only president ever China was paying us hundreds of billions of dollars and so were other countries Ries and you know if she doesn't like them they should have gone out and they should have immediately cut the tariffs but those tariffs are there three and a half years now under their Administration we are going to take in billions of dollars hundreds of billions of dollars I had no inflation virtually no inflation they had the highest inflation perhaps in the history of our country because I've never seen a worse period of time people can't go out and buy cereal or bacon or eggs or anything else these the people of our country are absolutely dying with what they've done they've destroyed the economy and all you have to do is look at a poll the polls say 80 and 85 and even 90% that the Trump economy was great that their economy was terrible vice president Harris I do want to ask for your response and you heard what the president said there because the Biden Administration did keep a number of the Trump tariffs in place so how do you respond well let's be clear that the Trump Administration resulted in a trade deficit one of the highest we've ever seen in in the history of America he invited trade Wars you want to talk about his deal with China what he ended up doing is under Donald Trump's presidency he ended up selling American chips to China to help them improve and modernize their military basically sold us out when a policy about China should be in making sure the United States of America wins the competition for the 21st century which means focusing on the details of what that requires focusing on relationships with our allies focusing on investing in american-based technology so that we win the race on AI on Quantum Computing focusing on what we need to do to support America's Workforce so that we don't end up having the on the short end of the stick in terms of workers rights but what Donald Trump did let's talk about this with covid is he actually thanked president shei for he did during Co look at his tweet thank you president shei exclamation point when we know that shei was responsible for lacking and not giving us transparency about the origins of covid President Trump I'll let you response first of all they bought their chips from Taiwan we hardly make chips anymore because of uh philosophies like they have and policies like they have I don't say her because she has no policy everything that she believed three years ago and four years years ago is out the window she's going to My Philosophy now in fact I was going to send her a Maga hat she's gone to My Philosophy but if she ever got elected she'd change it and it will be the end of our country she's a Marxist everybody knows she's a Marxist her father's a Marxist professor in economics and he taught her well but when you look at what she's done to our country and when you look at these millions and millions of people that are pouring into our country monthly where it's I believe 21 million people not the 15 that people say and I think it's a lot higher than the 21 that's bigger than New York State pouring in and just look at what they're doing to our country they're criminals many of these people coming in are criminals and that's bad for our economy too you know you mentioned before we'll talk about immigration later well bad immigration is the worst thing that can happen to our economy they have and she has destroyed our country with policy that's insane almost policy that you'd say they have to hate our country president Trump thank you Lindsay I want to turn to the issue of abortion president Trump you've often touted that you were able to kill roie Wade last year you said that you were proud to be the most pro-life president in American history then last month you said that your Administration would be great for women and their Reproductive Rights in your home state of Florida you surprised many uh with regard to your six- we abortion ban because you initially had said that it was too short and you said quote I'm going to be voting that we need more than six weeks but then the very next day you reversed course and said you would vote to support the six we ban vice president Harris says that women shouldn't trust you on the issue of of abortion because you've changed your position so many times therefore why should they trust you well the reason I'm doing that vote is because the plan is as you know the vote is they have abortion in the 9th month they even have and you can look at the governor of West Virginia the previous governor of West Virginia not the current governor is doing an excellent job but the governor before he said the baby will be born and we will decide what to do with the baby in other words we'll execute the baby and that's why I did that because that predominates because they're radical the Democrats are radical in that and her vice presidential pick which I think is a horrible pick by the way for our country after birth it's execution no longer abortion because the baby is born is okay and that's not okay with me hence the vote but what did is something after birth it's execution no longer abortion because the baby is born is okay and that's not okay with me hence the vote but what I did is something for 52 years they've been trying to get roie wade into the states and through the uh genius and and heart and strength of six Supreme Court Justices we were able to do that now I believe in the exceptions for rape incest and and life of the mother I believe strongly in it Ronald Reagan did also 85% of Republicans do exceptions very important but we were able to get it and now states are voting on it and for the first time you're going to see look this is an issue that's torn our country apart for 52 years every legal scholar every Democrat every Republican liberal conservative they all wanted this issue to be brought back to the states where the people could vote and that's what happened happened now Ohio the vote was somewhat Liberal Kansas the vote was somewhat liberal much more liberal than people would have thought but each individual state is voting it's the vote of the people now it's not tied up in the federal government I did a great service in doing it it took courage to do it and the Supreme Court had great courage in doing it and I give tremendous credit to those six justices there is no state in this country where it is legal to kill a baby after it's born Madam vice president want to get your response to president Trump well as I said you're going to hear a bunch of lies and that's not actually a surprising fact let's understand how we got here Donald Trump hand selected three members of the United States Supreme Court with the intention that they would undo the protections of roie Wade and they did exactly as he intended and now in over 20 states there are Trump abortion bans which make it criminal for a doctor or nurse nurse to provide Health Care in one state it provides prison for life Trump abortion bans that make no exception even for rape and incest which understand what that means a survivor of a crime of violation to their body does not have the right to make a decision about what happens to their body next that is immoral and one does not have to abandon their faith or deeply held beliefs to agree the government and Donald Trump TR certainly should not be telling a woman what to do with her body I have talked with women around our country you want to talk about this is what people wanted pregnant women who want to carry a pregnancy to term suffering from a miscarriage being denied care in an emergency room because the health care providers are afraid they might go to jail and she's bleeding out in a car in the parking lot she didn't want that her husband didn't want that a 12 or 13 old survivor of incest being forced to carry a pregnancy to term they don't want that and I pledge to you when Congress passes a bill to put back in place the protections of roie Wade as president of the United States I will proudly sign it into law but understand if Donald Trump were to be reelected he will sign a National Abortion ban understand in his project 2025 there would be a national abortion a monitor that would be monitoring your pregnancies your miscarriages I think the American people believe that certain freedoms in particular the freedom to make decisions about one's own body should not be made by the government thank you vice president Harris well there she goes again it's a lie I'm not signing a ban and there's no reason to sign a ban because we've gotten what everybody wanted Democrats Republicans and everybody else and every legal scholar wanted it to be brought back into the states and the states are voting and it may take a little time but for 52 years this issue has torn our country apart and they've wanted it back in the States and I did something that nobody thought was possible the states are now voting what she says is an absolute lie and as far as the abortion B no I'm not in favor of abortion B but it doesn't matter because this issue has now been taken over by the states would you veto a National Abortion ban if it well I won't have to because again two things number one she said she'll go back to Congress she'll never get the vote there's impossible for her to get the vote especially now with the 5050 and essentially 50/50 in both Senate and the house she's not going to get the vote she can't get the vote she won't even come close to it so it's just talk you know what it reminds me of when they said they're going to get student loans terminated and it ended up being a total catastrophe the student loans and then her I I think probably her boss if you call him a boss he spends all his time on the beach but look her boss went out and said we'll do it again we'll do it a different way and he went out got rejected Again by the Supreme Court so all these students got uh taunted with this whole thing about this whole idea and how unfair that would have been part of the reason they lost to the millions and millions of people that had to pay off their student loans they didn't get it for free but they were saying it's the same way that they talked about that that they talk about abortion but if I could just get a yes or no because your running mate J JD Vance has said that you would veto if you did come to your desk well I didn't discuss it with JD in all fairness uh JD and I I don't mind if he has a certain view but I think he was speaking for me but I really didn't look we don't have to discuss it because she'd never be able to get it just like she couldn't get student loans they couldn't get student loans they didn't even come close to getting student loans they taunted young people and a lot of people that had loans they can never get this approved so it doesn't matter what she says about going to Congress wonderful let's go to Congress do it but the fact is that for years they wanted to get it out of Congress and out of the federal government and we did something that everybody said couldn't be done and now you have a vote of the people on abortion vice president Harris want to give you your time to respond but I do want to ask would you support any restrictions on a woman's right to an abortion I absolutely support reinstating the protections of roie Wade and as you rightly mentioned nowhere in America is a woman carrying a pregnancy to term and and in asking for an abortion that is not happening it's insulting to the women of America and understand what has been happening under Donald Trump's abortion bans couples who pray and and and and dream of having a family are being denied IVF treatments what is happening in our country work people working women on a plane sitting next to strangers to go and get the health care she needs barely can afford to do it and what you are putting her through is unconscionable and the people of America have not the majority of Americans believe in a woman's right to make decisions about her own body and that is why in every state where this issue has been on the ballot in red and blue States both the people of America have voted for Freedom vice president excuse me I have to respond another lie it's another lie I have been a leader on IVF which which is fertilization the IVF I have been a leader in fact when they got a very negative decision on IVF from the Alabama courts I saw the people of Alabama and the legislature two days later voted it in fact when they got a very negative decision on IVF from the Alabama courts I saw the people of Alabama and the Alle legislature 2 Days Later voted it in I've been a leader on it they know that and everybody else knows it I have been a leader on fertilization IVF and the other thing they have not you should ask will she allow abortion in the 8th month ninth month seventh month come on okay would you do that why don't you ask that question why don't you answer the question would because under Ro you could do abortions in the seventh month the eighth month the n9th month and probably after birth just look at the governor former governor of Virginia the governor of Virginia said we put the baby aside and then we determine what we want to do with the baby president Trump thank you we're going to turn now to immigration and border security we know it's an issue that's important to Republicans Democrats voters across the board uh in this country vice president Harris you were tasked by President Biden with getting to the root causes of migration from Central America we know that illegal border crossings reached a record high in the Biden Administration this past June President Biden imposed tough new Asylum restrictions we know the numbers since then have dropped significantly but my question to you tonight is why did the administration wait until 6 months before the election to act and would you have done anything differently from President Biden on this so I'm the only person on this stage who has prosecuted transnational criminal organizations for the trafficking of guns drugs and human beings and let me say that the United States Congress including some of the most conservative members of the United States Senate came up with a border security bill which I supported and that bill would have put 1,500 more border agents On the Border to help those folks who are working there right now overtime trying to do their job it would have allowed us to stem the flow of fentol coming into the United States I know there are so many families watching tonight who have been personally affected by The Surge of fentol in our country that bill would have put more resources to allow us to prosecute transnational criminal organizations for trafficking in guns drugs and human beings but you know what happened to that bill Donald Trump got on the phone called up some folks in Congress and said kill the bill and you know why because he'd prefer to run on a problem instead of fixing a problem and understand this comes at a time where the people of our country actually need a leader who engages in Solutions who actually addresses the problems at hand but what we have in the former president is someone who would prefer to run on a problem instead of fixing a problem and I'll tell you something he's going to talk about immigration a lot tonight even when it's not the subject that is being raised and I'm going to actually do something really unusual and I'm going to invite you to attend one of Donald Trump's rallies because it's a really interesting thing to watch you will see during the course of his rallies he talks about fictional characters like Hannibal Lecter he will talk about windmills cause cancer and what you will also notice is that people start leaving his rallies early out of exhaustion and boredom and I will tell you the one thing you will not hear him talk about is you you will not hear him talk about your needs your dreams and your need and your desires and I'll tell you I believe you deserve a president who actually puts you first and I pledge to you that I will vice president Harris thank you president Trump on that point I want to get your response like to respond let me just ask though why you try to kill that bill and successfully so that the Dugo she's busting them in and paying them to be there and then showing them in a different light so she can't talk about that people don't leave my rallies we have the biggest rallies the most incredible rallies in the history of politics that's because people want to take their country back our country is being lost we're a failing nation and it happened rallies the most incredible rallies in the history of politics that's because people want to take their country back our country is being lost we're a failing nation and it happened three and A2 years ago and what what's going on here you're going to end up in World War I just to go into another subject what they have done to our country by allowing these millions and millions of people to come into our country and look at what's happening to the towns all over the United States and a lot of towns don't want to talk not going to be Aurora or Springfield a lot of towns don't want to talk about it because they're so embarrassed by it in Springfield they're eating the dogs the people that came in they're eating the cats they're eating they're eating the pets of the people that live there and this is what's happening in our country and it's a shame as far as the rallies are concerned as far is the reason they go is they like what I say they want to bring our country back they want to make America great again it's very simple phrase make America great again she's destroying this country and if she becomes president this country doesn't have a chance of success not only success will end up being Venezuela on steroids I just want to clarify here you rig up Springfield Ohio and ABC News did reach out to the city manager there uh he told us there have been no credible reports of specific claims of pets being harmed injured or abused by individuals within the Immigrant Community I've seen people on television let me just say here this is the the people on television say my dog was taken and used for food so maybe he said that and maybe that's a good thing to safe for a city manager I'm not taking this from telis people television the dog was eaten by the people that went there again the Springfield City manager says there's no evidence of that vice president Harris I'll let you respond to the rest of what you've heard you talk about extreme um you know I this is I think one of the reasons why in this election I actually have the endorsement of 200 Republicans who have formally worked with President Bush mitt ROM and John McCain inside track on who the former president is if he didn't make it clear already just ask people who have worked with him his former Chief of Staff a fourstar general has said he has contempt for the Constitution of the United States his former National Security adviser has said he is dangerous and unfit his former Secretary of Defense has said the nation the Republic would never survive another Trump term and when we listen to this kind of rhetoric when the issues that affect the American people are not being addressed I think the choice is clear in this election President Trump I'll give you a quick minute to respond here uh thank you because when I hear that see I'm a different kind of a person I fired most of those people not so graciously minut to respond here uh thank you because when I hear that see I'm a different kind of a person I fired most of those people people not so graciously they did bad things or a bad job I fired them they never fired one person they didn't fire anybody having to do with Afghanistan and the Taliban and the 13 people who's who's were just killed viciously and violently killed and I got to know the parents and the family they didn't fire they should have fired all those generals all those top people because that was one of the most incompetently handled situations anybody has ever seen so when somebody does a bad job job I fire him and you take a guy like esper he was no good I fired him so he writes a book another one writes a book because with me they can write books with nobody else can they but they have done such a poor job and they never fire anybody look at the economy look how look at the inflation they didn't fire any of their economists they have the same people that's a good way not to have books written about you but just to finish I got more votes than any Republican in history by far in fact I got more votes than any president sitting president in history by far let me continue on immigration it was what you wanted to talk about earlier so let's get back to your deportation National Guard you say if things get out of control you'd have no problem using the US military you also said you would use local police uh how would you uh Deport 11 million undocumented immigrants I know you you believe that number is much higher take us through this what does this look like will authorities be going door too in this country yeah it is much higher because of them they allowed criminals many many millions of criminals they allowed terrorists they allowed Common Street criminals they allowed people to come in drug dealers to come into our country and they're now in the United States and told by their countries like Venezuela don't ever come back or we're going to kill you do you know the crime in Venezuela and crime in countries all over the world is way down you know why because they've taking their criminals off the street and they've given do you know that crime in Venezuela and crime in countries all over the world is way down you know why because they've taken their criminals off the street and they've given them to her to put into our country and this will be one of the greatest mistakes in history for them to allow and I think they probably did it because they think they going to get votes but it's not worth it because they're they're destroying the fabric of our country by what they've done there's never been anything done like this at all they've destroyed the fabric of our country millions of people let in and all over the world crime is down all over the world except here crime here is up and through the roof despite their fraudulent statements that they made crime in this country is through the roof and we have a new form of crime it's called migrant crime and it's happening at levels that nobody thought possible president Trump as you know the FBI says overall violent crime is actually coming down to this country but EXC me the FBI def they were defrauding statements they they didn't include the worst cities they didn't include the cities with the worst crime it was a a fraud just like their number of 818 th000 jobs that they said they created turned out to be a fraud president Trump thank you I'll let you respond vice president Harris well I think this is so rich coming from someone who has been prosecuted for National Security crimes economic crimes election interference has been found liable for sexual assault and his next big court appearance is in November at his own criminal sentencing and let's be clear where each person stands on the issue of what is important about respect for the rule of law and respect for law enforcement the former vice president called for defunding federal law enforcement 45,000 agents get this on the day after he was arraigned on 34 felony counts so let's talk about what is important in this race it is important that we move forward that we turn the page on this same old tired rhetoric and address the needs of the American people address what we need to do about the housing shortage which I have a plan for address what we must do to support our small businesses address Bringing Down the price of groceries but frankly the American people are exhausted with this same old Tire Playbook vice president Harris thank you excuse me every one of those cases was started by them against their political opponent and I'm winning most of them and I will win the rest on appeal and you saw that with the decision that came down just recently from the Supreme Court I'm winning most of them but those are cases it's called weaponization never happened in this country they weaponized the justice department every one of those cases was involved with the doj from Atlanta and fny Willis to to the uh Attorney General of New York and the da of New York every one of those cases and then they say oh he was he's a criminal they're the ones that made them go after me by the way Joe Biden was found essentially guilty on the documents case and what happened in my documents case they said oh that's the toughest of them all a complete and total Victory two months ago it was thrown out it's weaponization and they used it and it's never happened in this country they used it to try and win an election fake cases president Trump thank you a really quick response here vice president Harris on this notion of weaponization of the justice department well let's talk about extreme and understand the context in which this election in 2024 is taking place the United States Supreme Court recently ruled that the former president would essentially be immune from any misconduct if he were to enter the White House again understand this is someone who has openly said said he would terminate I'm quoting terminate the Constitution of the United States that he would weaponize the Department of Justice against his political enemies someone who has openly expressed disdain for members of our military understand what it would mean if Donald Trump were back in the white house with no guard rails because certainly we know now the court won't stop him we know JD Vance is not going to stop him it's up to the American people vice president Harris thank you Lindsay vice president Harris in your last run for president please this is the one that weaponized not me she weaponized I probably took a bullet to the head because of the things that they say about me they talk about democracy I'm a threat to democracy they're the threat to democracy with a fake Russia Russia Russia investigation have a lot that went nowhere we have a lot to get to Lindsay vice president Harris in your last run for president you said you wanted to ban fracking now you don't you wanted mandatory government buyback programs for assault weapons now your campaign says you don't you supported decriminalizing border crossings now you're taking a harder line I know you say that your values have not changed so then why have so many of your policy positions changed so my values have not changed and I'm going to discuss every one of the at least every point that you've made but in particular let's talk about fracking because we're here in Pennsylvania I made that very clear in 2020 I will not ban fracking I have not banned fracking as vice president of United States and in fact I Was the tiebreaking vote on the inflation reduction act which opened new leases for fracking my position is that we have got to invest in diverse sources of energy so we reduce our Reliance on foreign oil we have had the largest increase in domestic oil production in history because of an approach that recognizes that we cannot over rely on foreign oil as it relates to my values let me tell you I grew up a middle class kid raised by a hardworking mother who worked and saved and was able to buy our first home when I was a teenager the values I bring to the importance of home ownership knowing not everybody got handed $400 million on a silver platter and then filed bankruptcy six times is a value that I bring to my work to say we are going to work with the private sector and home builders to increase 3 million homes and my focus then on protecting women and children from violent crime is based on a value that is deeply grounded in the importance of standing up for those who are most vulnerable my work that is about protecting Social Security and Medicare is based on long-standing work that I have done protecting seniors from scams vulnerable my work that is about protecting Social Security and Medicare is based on long-standing work that I have done protecting seniors from scams my values have not changed and what is important is that there is a president who actually brings values and a perspective that is about lifting people up and not beating people down and name calling the true measure of the leader is the leader who actually understands the strength is not in beating people down it's in lifting people up I intend to be that president president Trump your resp well first of all I wasn't given $400 million I wish I was my father was a Brooklyn Builder Brooklyn Queens and a great father and I learned a lot from him but I was given a fraction of that a tiny fraction and I built it into many many billions of dollars many many billions and when people see it they are even surprised so we don't have to talk about that fracking she's been against it for 12 years uh defund the police she's been against that forever she gave all that stuff up very wrongly very horribly and everybody's laughing at it okay they're all laughing at it she gave up at least 12 and probably 14 or 15 different policies like she was big on defund the police in Minnesota she went out wait a minute I'm talking now you don't mind please does that sound familiar don't lie she went out she went out in Minnesota and wanted to let criminals that killed people that burned down Minneapolis she went out and raised money to get them out of jail she did things that nobody would ever think of now she wants to do transgender operations on illegal aliens that are in prison this is a radical left liberal that would do this she wants to confiscate your guns and she will never allow fracking in Pennsylvania if she won the election fracking in Pennsylvania will end on day one just to finish one thing so important in my opinion so I got the oil business going like nobody has ever done before they took when they took over they got rid of it started getting rid of it and the prices were going up the roof they immediately let these guys go to where they were I would have been five times four times five times higher because you're talking about three and a half years ago they got it up to where I was because they had no choice because the prices of energy were were quadrupling and doubling you saw what happened to gasoline so they said let's go back to Trump but if she won the election the day after that election they'll go back to destroying our country and oil will be dead fossil fuel will be dead we'll go back to windmills and we'll go back to solar where they need a whole desert to get some energy to come out you ever see a solar plant by the way I'm a big fan of solar but they take 45 100 acres of desert so good things for the environment that understand thank you Lindsay thank you we have an election in just 56 days and and I want to talk about the peaceful transfer of power which of course we all know is a Cornerstone of our democracy and the role of a president uh in a moment of Crisis uh Mr President on January 6th you told your supporters to March to the capital you said you would be right there with them the country and the world saw what played out of the capital that day the officers coming under attack AIDS in the west wings say you watched it unfold on television off the Oval Office uh you did send out tweets but it was more than 2 hours before you sent out that that video message uh telling your supporters to go home is there anything you regret about what you did on that day you just said a thing that isn't covered peacefully and patriotically I said during my speech not later on peacefully and patriotically and nobody on the other side was killed Ashley babot was shot by an outof control police officer that should have never ever shot her it's a disgrace but we didn't do this group of people that have been treated so badly I ask what about all the people that are pouring into our country and killing people that she allowed to pour in she was the Bazar remember that she was the Bazar she doesn't want to be called the Bazar because she's embarrassed by the bord fact she said at the beginning oh I'm surprised you're not talking about the Border yet that's because she knows what a bad job they've done what about those people what's when are they going to be prosecuted when are these people from countries all over the world not just South America they're coming in from all over the world David all over the world and crime rates are down all over the world because of it one of those David one of those people going to be prosecuted one of the people that burned down Minneapolis going to be prosecuted or in Seattle they went into Seattle they took over a big percentage of the city of Seattle when are those people going to be prosecuted but let me just ask you you might ask her that question you were the president you were watching it unfold on television it's a very simple question as we move forward toward another election is there anything you regret about what you did on that day yes or I had nothing to do with that other than they asked me to make a speech I showed up for a speech I said I think it's going to be big I went to Nancy Pelosi and the mayor of Washington DC and the mayor put it back in writing as you know I said you know this is going to be a very big Rally or whatever you want to call it and again it wasn't done by me it was done by others I said I'd like to give you 10,000 National Guard or sold they rejected me Nancy Pelosi rejected me it was just two weeks ago her daughter has a tape of her saying she is fully responsible for what happened they want to get rid of that tape it would have never happened if Nancy Pelosi and the mayor of Washington did their jobs I wasn't responsible for security Nancy Pelosi was responsible she didn't do her job the question was about vice president elect I was also an acting Senator I was there and on that day the president of the United States incited a violent mob to attack our nation's capital to desecrate our nation's capital on that day 140 law enforcement off to attack our nation's capital to desecrate our nation's capital on that day 140 law enforcement officers were injured and some died and understand the former president has been in indicted and impeached for exactly that reason but this is not an isolated situation let's remember Charlottesville where there was a mob of people carrying tiki torches spewing anti-emetic hate and what did the president then at the time say there were fine people on each side let's remember that when it came to the proud boys a militia the president said the former president said stand back and stand by so for everyone watching who remembers what January 6th was I say we don't have to go back let's not go back we're not going back it's time to turn the page and if that was a bridge too far for you well there is a place in and to end the chaos and to end the approach that is about attacking the foundations of our democracy because you don't like the outcome and be clear on that point Donald Trump the candidate has said in this election there will be a bloodbath if this and the outcome of this election is not to his liking let's turn the page on this let's not go back let's chart a course for the future and not go backwards to the past let me just follow up here it was a different term and it was a term that related to energy because they have destroyed our energy business that was where bloodbath was also on Charlottesville that story has been as you would say debunked Laura Ingram Sean Hannity Jesse business that was where bloodbath was also on Charlottesville that story has been as you would say debunked Laura Ingram Sean Hannity Jesse all of these people they covered it if they go an extra sentence they will see it was perfect it was debunked in almost every newspaper but they still bring it up just like they bring 2025 up they bring all of this stuff up I ask you this you talk about the capital why are we allowing these millions of people to come through on the southern border how come she's not doing anything and I'll tell you what I would do and I would be very proud to do it I would say we would both leave this debate right now I'd like to see her go down to Washington DC during this debate because we're wasting a lot of time go down to because just been so bad it's so ridiculous go down to Washington DC and let her sign a bill to close up the Border because they have the right to do it they don't need bills they have the right to do it the president of the United States you'll get them out of bed you'll wake them up at 4:00 in the afternoon you'll say come on come on down to the office let's sign a bill If he if he signs a bill that the border is closed all he has to do is say it to the border patrol who are phenomenal if they do that the border is closed those people are killing many people like j6 we talked immigration here tonight I do want to focus and you repeatedly falsely claim that you won many times saying you won in a landslide in the past couple of weeks leading up to this debate uh you have said quote you lost by a whisker that you quote didn't quite make it that you came up a little bit short I that are you now acknowledging that you lost in 2020 I don't acknowledge it at all I said that sarcastically you know that it was said oh we lost by a whisker that was said sarcastically look there's so much proof all you have to do is look at it and they should have sent it back to the legislatures for approval I got almost 75 million votes the most votes any sitting president has ever gotten I was told if I got 63 which was what I got in 2016 you can't be beaten the election people should never be thinking about an election is fraudulent we need two things we need walls we need and we have to have it we have to have bord beaten the election people should never be thinking about an election is fraudulent we need two things we need War we need and we have to have it we have to have borders and we have to have good elections our elections are bad and a lot of these illegal immigrants coming in they're trying to get them to vote they can't even speak English they don't even know what country they're in practically and these people are trying to get them to vote and that's why they're allowing them to come into our country I did watch all of these pieces of video I I didn't detect the sarcasm lost by whisker we didn't quite make it and we should just point out here as clarification and you know this you and your allies 60 cases in front of many judges many of them looked at and said we didn't have standing that's the other thing they said we didn't have standing a technicality can you imagine a system where a person in an election doesn't have standing the president of the United States doesn't have standing that's how we lost if you look at the facts and I'd love to have you you'll do a special on it I'll show you Georgia and I'll show you Wisconsin and I'll show you Pennsylvania and I'll show you we have so many facts statistics but you know what that doesn't matter because we we have a nation that is dying David Mr President thank you uh vice president Harris you heard the president there tonight he said he didn't say that that he lost by whisker so he still uh believes uh he did not lose the election uh that was won by President Biden uh and yourself but I do want to ask you about something that's come up in the last couple of days this was a post from uh president Trump about this upcoming election just weeks away he said when I win those people who cheated and he lists donors voters election officials he says we'll be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law which will include long-term prison sentences one of your campaign's top lawyers responded saying we won't let Donald Trump intimidate us we won't let him suppress the vote is that what you believe he's trying to do here Donald Trump was fired by 81 million people so let's be clear about that and press the vote is that what you believe he's trying to do here Donald Trump was fired by 81 million people so let's be clear about that and clearly he is having a very difficult time processing that but we cannot afford to have a president of the United States who attempts as he did in the past to upend the will of the voters in a free and fair election and I'm going to tell you that I I have traveled the world as vice president United States and world leaders are laughing at Donald Trump I have talked with military leaders some of whom worked with you again are court cases you have lost because you did in fact lose that election it leads one to believe that perhaps we do not have in the candidate to my right the temperament or or the ability to not be confused about fact that's deeply troubling and the American people deserve better I'll give you one minute to respond Mr President let me just say about where lead Victor Orban one of the most respected men they call him a strong man he's a he's a tough person smart prime minister of Hungary they said why is the whole world blowing up three years ago it wasn't why is it blowing up he said because you need Trump back as president they were afraid of him China was afraid and I don't like to use the word afraid but I'm just quoting him China was afraid of him North Korea was afraid of him look at what's going on with North Korea by the way he said Russia was afraid of him I ended the nordstream 2 Pipeline and Biden put it back on day one but he ended the XL Pipeline the XL pipeline in our country he ended that but he let the Russians build a pipeline going all over Europe and heading into Germany the biggest pipeline in the world look Victor Orban said it he said the most respected most feared person is Donald Trump we had no problems when Trump was president pres but when this weak pathetic man that you saw expected most feared person is Donald Trump we had no problems when Trump was president but when this weak pathetic man that you saw at a debate just a few months ago that if he weren't in that debate he'd be running on set of HSE he got no votes he got 14 million votes what you did you talk about a threat to democracy he got 14 million votes and they threw him out of office and you know what I'll give you a little secret he hates her he can't stand her but he got 14 million votes they threw him out she got zero votes and when she ran she was the first one to leave because she failed and now she's running I don't understand it but Mr President Harris in December you said quote Israel has a right to defend itself but you added quote it matters how saying International humanitarian law must be respected Israel president Harris in December you said quot Israel has a right to defend itself but you added quote it matters how saying International humanitarian law must be respected Israel must do more to protect innocent civilians you said that 9 months ago now an estimated 40,000 Palestinians are dead nearly 100 hostages remain just last week prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu said there's not a deal in the making President Biden has not been able to break through the stalemate how would you do it well let's understand how we got here on October 7 Hamas terrorist organization slaughtered 1200 Israelis many of them young people who were simply attending a concert women were horribly raped and so absolutely I said then I say now Israel has a right to defend itself we would and how it does so matters because it is also true far too many innocent Palestinians have been killed children mothers what we know is that this war must end it must when end immediately and the way it will end is we need a ceasefire deal and we need the hostages out and so we will continue to work around there must be security for the Israeli people and Israel and in equal measure for the Palestinians but the one thing I will assure you always I will there must be security for the Israeli people and Israel and an equal measure for the Palestinians but the one thing I will assure you always I will always give Israel the ability to defend itself in particular as it rates to as it relates to Iran and any threat that Iran and its proxies posed to they so rightly deserve president Trump how would you negotiate with Netanyahu and also Hamas in order to get the hostages out and prevent the killing of more innocent civilians in Gaza if I were president it would have never started if I were president Russia would have never ever I know Putin very well he would have never and there was no threat of it either by the way for four years have gone into Ukraine and killed millions of people when you added up far worse than people understand what's going on over there but when she mentions about Israel all of a sudden she hates Israel she wouldn't even meet with Netanyahu when he went to Congress to make a very important speech she refused to be there because she was at a sorority party of hers she want to go to the sari party she hates Israel if she's president I believe that Israel will not exist within 2 years from now and I've been pretty good at predictions and I hope I'm wrong about that one she hates Israel at the same time in her own way she hates the Arab population because the whole place is going to get blown up Arabs Jewish people Israel Israel will be gone it would have never happened Iran was broke under Donald Trump now Iran has 300 billion people Israel Israel will be gone it would have never happened Iran was broke under Donald Trump now Iran has $300 billion do because they took off all the sanctions that I had Iran had no money for Hamas or Hezbollah or any of the 28 different uh spheres of Terror and they are spheres of Terror horrible Terror they had no money there was a big story and you know it you covered it very well actually they had no money for Terror they were broke now they're a rich nation and now what they're doing is they're spreading that money around look at what's happening with the houis and Yemen look at what's going on in the Middle East this would have never happened I will get that settled and fast and I'll get the war with Ukraine and Russia ended if I'm president-elect I'll get it done before even becoming president vice president Harris he says you hate Israel oh that's absolutely not distract from the reality which is it is very well known that Donald Trump is weak and wrong on National Security and foreign policy it is well known that he admires dictators wants to be a dictator on day one according to himself it is well known that he said of Putin that he can do whatever the hell he wants and go into Ukraine ukine it is well known that he said when Russia went into Ukraine it was brilliant it is well known he exchanged love letters with Kim Jong-un and it is absolutely welln that these dictators and autocrats are rooting for you to be president again because they're so clear they can manipulate you with flattery and favors and that is why so many military leaders who you have worked with have told me you are a disgrace that is why we understand that we have to have a president who is not consistently weak and wrong on National Security including the importance of upholding and respecting in highest regard our military vice president Harris thank you they're the ones and she's the one that caus it that's weak on National Security by allowing Every Nation last month for the year 168 different countries sending people into our country their crime weights are way down Putin endorsed her last week said I hope she wins and I think he meant it because what he's gotten away with is absolutely incredible it wouldn't have happened with me the leaders of other countries think that they're weak and incompetent and they are they're grossly incompetent and I just ask one question why does Biden go in and kill the Keystone Pipeline and approve the single biggest deal that Russia's ever made nordstream 2 the biggest pipeline anywhere in the world going to Germany and all over Europe because they're weak and they're ineffective and Biden by the way gets paid a lot of money thank you we have a lot of issues to get to we'll be right back with much 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continue here and I want to turn to the war in Ukraine we're now two and a half years into this conflict Mr President it has been the position of the Biden Administration that we must defend Ukraine from Russia from Vladimir Putin to defend their sovereignty their democracy that it's in America's best interest to do so arguing that if Putin wins he may be embolden to move even further into other countries you have said you would solve this war in 24 hours you said so just before the break tonight how exactly would you do that and I want to ask you a very simple question tonight do you want Ukraine to win this War I want the war to stop I want to save lives that are being uselessly people being killed by the millions it's the millions it's so much worse than the numbers that you're getting which your fake numbers look we're in for 250 billion or more because they don't ask Europe which is a much bigger beneficiary to get like I did with NATO they paid billions and billions hundreds of billions of dollars when I said either you pay up or we're not going to protect you anymore so that's maybe one of the reasons they don't like me as much as they like weak people but you take a look at what's happening we're in for 250 to 275 billion they're into 100 to 150 they should be forced to equalize with that being said I want to get the War settled I know zalinsky very well and they're into 100 to 150 they should be forced to equalize with that being said I want to get the War settled I know zalinski very well and I know Putin very well I have a good relationship and they respect your president okay they respect me they don't respect Biden how would you respect him why for what reason he hasn't even made a phone call in two years to Putin hasn't spoken to anybody they don't even try and get it that is a war that's dying to be settled I will get it settled before I even become president if I win when I'm President elect and what I'll do is I'll speak to one I'll speak to the other I'll get them together that war would have never happened and in fact when I saw Putin after I left unfortunately left because our our country has gone to hell but after I left when I saw him building up soldiers he did it after I left I said oh he must be negotiating it must be a good strong point of negotiation well it wasn't because Biden had no idea how to talk to him he had no idea how to stop it and now you have millions of people dead and it's only getting worse and it could lead to World War III don't kid yourself David we're playing with World War II and we have a president that we don't even know if he's where is our president we don't even know if he's a president and just to clarify they threw him out of a campaign like a dog we don't even know is he our president but we have a president that doesn't know he's alive your time is up and it with just to clarify in the question do you believe it's in the US best interests for Ukraine to win this war yes or no I think it's the US best interest to get this war finished and just get it done negotiate a deal because but also as commanderin-chief if elected how would you deal with Vladimir Putin and would it be any different from what we're seeing from President Biden well first of all it's important to remind the former president you're not running against Joe Biden you're running against me I believe the reason that Donald Trump says that this war would be over within to remind the former president you're not running against Joe Biden you're running against me I believe the reason that Donald Trump says that this war would be over within 24 hours is because he would just give it up and that's not who we are as Americans let's understand what happened here um I actually met with zalinski a few days before Russia invaded tried through Force to change territorial boundaries to defy one of the most important International rules and days later I went to NATO's Eastern flank to Poland and Romania and through the work that I and others did we brought 50 countries together days later I went to NATO's Eastern flank to Poland and Romania and through the work that I and others did we brought 50 countries together to support Ukraine in its righteous defense and because of our support because of the air defense the ammunition the artillery the javelins the Abrams tanks that we have provided Ukraine stands as an independent and free country if Donald Trump were President Putin would be sitting in keev right now and understand what that would mean because Putin's agenda is not just about Ukraine understand why the European allies and our NATO allies are so thankful that you are no longer president and that we understand the importance of the greatest military Alliance the world has ever known which is NATO and what we have done to preserve ve the ability of zalinsky and the ukrainians to fight for their independence otherwise Putin would be sitting in keev with his eyes on the rest of Europe starting with Poland and why don't you tell the 800,000 polish Americans right here in Pennsylvania how quickly you would give up for the sake of favor and what you think is a friendship with what is known to be a dictator who would eat you for lunch vice president Harris thank you we've heard from both of you on Ukraine tonight Afghanistan came up in the last hour I I wanted her to respond to something you said earlier and I please I'll I'll give you a minute here Putin would be sitting in Moscow and he wouldn't have lost 300,000 men and women but he would have been sitting in Moscow quiet please he would have been sitting in Moscow much happier than he is right now but eventually you know he's got a thing that other people don't have he's got nuclear weapons they don't ever talk about that he got nuclear weapons nobody ever thinks about that and eventually uh maybe he'll use him and maybe he hasn't been that threatening but he does have that something we don't even like to talk about nobody likes to talk about it but just so you understand they sent her to negotiate peace before this war started three days later he went in and he started the war because everything they said was weak and stupid they said the wrong things that war should have never started she was the Emissary they said sent her in to negotiate with zalinski and Putin and she did and the war started 3 days later and that's the kind of talent we have with her she's worse than Biden in my opinion I think he's the worst president in the history of our country she goes down as the worst vice president in the history of our country but let me tell you something she is a horrible negotiator they sent her in to negotiate as soon as they left I said it at the beginning of this debate you're going to hear a bunch of Lies coming from this fellow and that is another one when I went to meet with President Zen I've now met with him over five times the reality is it has been about standing as America always should as a leader upholding International rules and Norms as a leader who shows strength understanding that the alliances we have around the world are dependent on our ability to look out for our friends and not favor our enemies because you adore strong men instead of caring about democracy and that is very much what is at stake here the president of the United States is commanderin-chief and the American people have a right to rely that is very much what is at stake here the president of the United States is commanderin-chief and the American people have a right to rely on a president who understands the significance of americ America's role and responsibility in terms of ensuring that there is stability and ensuring we stand up for our principles and not sell them for the for the benefit of personal flattery we've talked about Ukraine and Vladimir Putin I do want to talk about Afghanistan it came up in in the first hour of this debate I I wanted to move on to Afghanistan Stenberg said Trump did the most amazing thing I've ever seen he got these countries the 28 countries at the time to pay up he said I've never seen he's the head of NATO he said I've never seen for years we were paying almost all of NATO we were being ripped off by European nations both on trade and on NATO I got them to pay up by saying one of the statements you made before if you don't power of the debate and we witnessed a a poignant moment today on Capitol Hill honoring the soldiers who died in the chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan I do want to ask the vice president uh do you believe you bear any responsibility in the way that withdrawal played out well well I will tell you I agreed with President Biden's decision to pull out of Afghanistan for Bear any responsibility in the way that withdraw played out well I will tell you I agreed with President Biden's decision to pull out of Afghanistan four presidents said they would and Joe Biden did and as a result America's taxpayers are not paying the $300 million a day we were paying for that endless war and as of today there is not one member of the United States military who is in active duty in a combat zone in any war zone around the world the first time this Century but let's understand how we got to where we are Donald Trump when he was president negotiated one of the weakest deals you can imagine he calls himself a dealmaker even his National Security advisor said it was a weak terrible deal and here's how it went down he bypassed the Afghan government he negotiated directly with a terrorist organization called the Taliban the negotiation involved the Taliban getting 5,000 terrorist Taliban terrorists released and get this no get this and the president at the time invited the Taliban to Camp David a place of stored significance for us as Americans a place where we honor the importance of American diplomacy where we invite and receive respected world leaders and this former president as president invited them to Camp David because he does not again appreciate the role and responsibility of the president of the United States to be commander-in-chief with a level of respect and this gets back to the point of how he has consistently disparaged and demeaned members of our milit AR fallen soldiers and the work that we must do to uphold the strength if you take a look at that period of time the Taliban was killing our soldiers a lot of them with snipers and I got involved with the Taliban because the Taliban was doing the killing that's the Fighting Force within Afghanistan they don't bother doing that because you know they deal with the wrong people all the time but I got involved and Abdul is the head of the Taliban is still the head of the Taliban and I told Abdul don't do it anymore you do it anymore you're going to have problems and he said why do you send me a picture of my house I said you're going to have to figure that out Abdul and for 18 months we had nobody killed we did have an agreement negotiated by Mike Pompeo it was a very good agreement the reason it was good it was we were getting out we would have been out faster than them but we wouldn't have lost the soldiers agreement negotiated by Mike Pompeo was a very good agreement the reason it was good it was we were getting out we would have been out faster than them but we wouldn't have lost the soldiers we wouldn't have left many Americans behind and we wouldn't have left we wouldn't have left $85 billion worth of brand new beautiful military equipment behind and just to finish they blew it the agreement said you have to do this this this this this and they didn't do it they didn't do it the agreement was was terminated by us because they didn't do what they were supposed to do and these people did the worst withdrawal and in my opinion the most embarrassing moment in the history of our country and by the way that's why Russia attacked Ukraine because they saw how incompetent she and her boss are President Trump thank you I want to move on now to race and politics in this country Mr President you recently said a vice president Harris quote I didn't know she was black until a number of years ago when she happened to turn black and now she wants to be known as black I want to ask a bigger picture question here tonight why do you believe it's appropriate US whatever she wants to be is okay with me but those were your words so I'm asking I don't know I don't know I mean all I can say is I read where she was not black that she put out and I'll say that and then I read that she was black and that's okay either one was okay with me that's up to her that's up to her vice president Harris your thoughts on this I think it's I mean honestly I think it's a a a tragedy that we have um someone who wants to be president who has consistently over the course of his career attempted to use race to divide the American people you know I do believe that the vast majority of us know that we have so much more in common than what separates us and we don't want this kind of approach that is just constantly trying to divide us and especially by race and let's remember how Donald Trump started he was a a a a land he owned land he owned buildings and he he was investigated because he refused to rent property to black families let's remember this is the same individual who took out a full page ad in the New York Times calling for the execution of five young black and Latino boys who were innocent the Central Park 5 took out a full page ad calling for their execution this is the same individual who spread birth or lies about the first black president of the United States and I think the American people want better than that want better than this want someone who understands as I do I travel our country we see in each other than that want better than this want someone who understands as I do I travel our country we see in each other a friend we see in each other a neighbor we don't want a leader who is constantly trying to have Americans Point their fingers at each other I meet with people all the time who tell me can we please just have discourse about how we're going to invest in the aspirations and the Ambitions and the dreams of the American people knowing that regardless of people's color or the language their grandmother speaks we all have the same dreams and aspirations and Want a President Who invest in those not in hate and division vice president Harris thank you Lindsay president Trump this is now your third time this is the most divisive presidency in the history of our country there's never been anything like it they're destroying our country and they come up with things like what she just said said going back many many years when a lot of people including May Bloomberg agreed with me on the Central Park 5 they admitted they said they plead guilty and I said well if they plad guilty they'd badly hurt a person killed a person ultimately there's nothing now I built one of the greatest economies in the history of the world and I'm going to build it again it's going to be bigger better and stronger but they're destroying our economy they have no idea what a good economy is their oil policies every single policy and remember this she is Biden you know she's trying to get away from Biden I don't know the gentleman she says she is Biden the worst inflation we've ever had a horrible economy because inflation has made it so bad and she can't get away with that thank you your time is up I want to respond to that though I want to just respond briefly clearly I am not Joe Biden and I am certainly not Donald Trump and what I do offer is a new generation of leadership for our country one who believes in what is possible one who brings a sense of optimism about what we can do instead of always disparaging the American people I believe in what we can do to strengthen our small businesses which is why I have a plan let's talk about our plans and and let's compare the plans I have a plan to give startup businesses $50,000 tax deduction to pursue their Ambitions their Innovation their ideas their hard work I have a plan $6,000 for young families for the first year of your child's life Ambitions their Innovation their ideas their hard work I have a plan $6,000 for young families for the first year of your child's life to help you in that most critical stage of your child's development I have a plan that is about allowing people to be able to pursue what has been fleeting in terms of the American dream by offering a help with down payment of $225,000 down payment assistance for firsttime home buyers that's the kind of conversation I believe David that people really want tonight as opposed to a conversation that is constantly about belittling and name calling let's turn the page forward let's turn to move president Trump let's turn to policy please has a plan to defund the police she has a plan to confiscate everybody's gun has a plan to not allow fracking in Pennsylvania or anywhere else that's what her plan is until just recent I just need to respond former president has said something twice that I need to respond to I'm sorry we're going we're going to move on vice president president Trump this is now your third time running for president you long vowed to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act also known as Obamacare you have failed to accomplish that you now say you're going to keep Obamacare quote unless we can do something much better last month you said quote we're working on it so tonight nine years after you first started running do you have a plan and can you tell us what it is Obamacare was lousy Health Care always was it's not very good today and what I said that if we come up with something and we are working on things we're going to do it and we're going to replace it but remember this I inherited Obamacare because Democrats wouldn't change it they wouldn't vote for it they were unanimous they wouldn't vote to change it if they would have done that we would have had a much better plan than Obamacare but the Democrats came up they wouldn't vote for it I had a choice to make when I was President do I save it and make it as good as it can be never going to be great or do I let it rot and I felt I had an obligation even though politically it would have been good to just let it rot and let it go away I decided and I told my people the top people and they very good people I have a lot of good people in this that Administration we read about the bad ones we had some real bad ones too and so do they they have really bad ones the difference is they don't get rid of them but let me just explain I had a choice to make do I save it and make it as good as it can be or do I let it rot and I saved it I did the right thing but it's still never going to be great and it's too expensive for people and what we will do is we're looking at different plans if we can come up with a plan that's going to cost our people our population less money and be better health care than Obamacare then I would absolutely do it but until then I'd run it as good as it can be run so just yes or no you still do not have a plan I have concepts of a plan I'm not president right now but if we come up with something I would only change it if we come up with something that's better and less EXP expensive and there are Concepts and options we we have to do that and you'll be hearing about it you proposed a plan that included a private insurance option what is your plan today well first of all I absolutely support and over the last four years as vice president Private health care options but what we need to do is maintain and grow the Affordable Care Act but I I I'll get to that Lindsay I just need to respond to a previous point that the former president has made I've made very clear my position on fracking and then this business about taking Tak everyone's guns away Tim Walls and I are both gun owners we're not taking anybody's guns away so stop with the continuous lying about this stuff as it relates to the Affordable Care Act understand let just look at the history to know where people stand when Donald Trump was President 60 times he tried to get rid of the Affordable Care Act 60 times I was a Senator at the time when I will never forget the early morning hours when it was up for a vote in the United States Senate and the late great John McCain who you have disparaged as when it was up for a vote in the United States Senate and the late great John McCain who you have disparaged as being you don't like him you said at the time because he got caught he was an American hero the late great John McCain I will never forget that night walked onto the senate floor and said no you don't no you don't no you don't get rid of the Affordable Care Act you have no plan and what the Affordable Care Act has done is eliminate the ability of insurance companies to deny people with pre-existing conditions I don't have to tell the people watching tonight you remember what that was like remember when an insurance company could deny if a child had asthma if someone was a breast cancer survivor if a if a grandparent had diabetes and thankfully as I've been vice president and we over the last four years have strengthened the Affordable Care Act we have allowed for the first time Medicare to negotiate drug prices on behalf of you the American people Donald Trump said he was going to allow Medicare to negotiate drug prices he never did we did and now we have capped the cost of insulin at $35 a month since I've been Vice President we have capped the cost of prescription medication for seniors at $2,000 a year and when I am President we will do that for all people understanding that the value I bring to this is that access to health care should be a right and not just a privilege of those who can afford it and the plan has to be to strengthen the Affordable Care Act not get rid of it in terms of where Donald Trump stands on that I want to move to an issue that's important for a lot made a mistake at number one John McCain fought Obamacare for 10 years but it wasn't only him it were all of the Democrats that kept it going going and you know what we can do much better than Obamacare much less money but she won't improve private insurance for people private medical insurance that's another thing she doesn't want to get people are paying privately for insurance that have worked hard and made money and they want to have private she wants everybody to be on government insurance where you wait six months for an operation that you need immediately president Trump thank you we have another issue that we'd like to get to that's important for a number of Americans in particular younger voters and that's climate change president Trump with regard to the environment you say that we have to have clean air and clean water vice president Harris you call climate change an existential threat the question to you both tonight is what would you do to fight climate change and vice president Harris we'll start with you one minute for you each well the former president had said the climate change is a hoax and what we know is that it is very real you ask anyone who lives in a state who has experienced these extreme weather occurrences who now is either being denied home insurance or it's being jacked up you ask anybody who has been um the victim of what that means in terms of losing their home having nowhere to go we know that we can actually deal with this issue the young people of America care deeply about this issue and I am proud that as vice president over the last four years we have invested a trillion dollars in a clean energy economy while we have also increased domestic gas production to Historic levels we have created over 800,000 new manufacturing jobs while I have been Vice President we have invested in clean energy to the point that we are opening up factories around the world Donald Trump said he was going to create manufacturing jobs he lost manufacturing jobs and I'm also proud to have the endorsement of the United Auto Workers and Shan feain who also know that part of building a clean energy economy includes investing in America American made products American automobiles it includes growing what we can do around American manufacturing and opening up Auto plants not closing them like happened under Donald Trump vice president Harris thank you that didn't happen under Donald Trump let me just tell you they lost 10,000 manufacturing jobs this last month it's going they're all leaving uh they're building big Auto plants in Mexico in many cases owned by China they're building these Mass massive plants and they think they're going to sell their cars into the United States because of these people what they have given to China is unbelievable but we're not going to let that we'll put tariffs on those cars so they can't come into our country because they will kill the United Auto Workers and any order worker whether it's in Detroit or South Carolina or any other place what they've done to business and Manufacturing in this country is horrible we have nothing because they they refuse you know Biden doesn't go after people because supposedly China paid him millions of dollars he's afraid to do it between him and his son they get all this money from Ukraine they get all this money from all of these different countries and then you wonder why is he so loyal to this one that one Ukraine China why is he why did he get3 and5 million doar from the mayor of moscow's wife why did he get why did she pay him three5 million this is a crooked Administration and they're selling our country country down the tubes president Trump thank you thank you we'll be right back with closing statements from both of our candidates in historic night this ABC News presidential debate from Philadelphia back in a moment the ABC News presidential debate 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down the cost of living I believe in what we can do together that is about sustaining America's standing in the world and ensuring that we have the respect that we so rightly deserve including respecting our military and ensuring we have the most lethal fighting force in the world I will be a president that will protect our fundamental rights and freedoms including the right of a woman to make decisions about her own body and not have her government tell her what to do I'll tell you I started my career as a prosecutor I was a DA I was an attorney general a United States Senator and now Vice President I've only had one client the people and I'll tell you as a prosecutor I never asked a victim or a witness are you a Republican or a Democrat the only thing I ever asked them are you okay and that's the kind of President we need right now someone who cares about you and is not putting themselves first I intend to be a president for all Americans and focus on what we can do over the next 10 and 20 years to build back up our country by investing right now in you the American people vice president Harris thank you president Trump so she just started by saying she's going to do this she's going to do that she's going to do all these wonderful things why hasn't she done it she's been there for three and A2 years they've had three and A2 years to fix the Border they've had three and a half years to create jobs and all the things we talked about why hasn't she done it she should leave right now go down to that beautiful white house go to the capital get everyone together and do the things you want to do but you haven't done it and you won't do it because you believe in things that the American people don't believe in you believe in things like we're not going to Frack we're not going to take fossil fuel we're not going to do things that are going to make this country strong whether you like it or not German tried that and within one year they were back to building normal energy plants we're not ready for it we can't sacrifice our country for the sake of bad Vision but I just ask one simple question why didn't she do it we're a failing Nation We're a nation that's in serious decline we're being laughed at all over the world all over the world they're laugh I know the leaders very well they're coming to see me they call me we're laughed at all over the world they don't understand what happened to us as a nation we're not a leader we don't have any idea what's going on we have wars going on in the Middle East we have wars going on with Russia and Ukraine we're going to end up in a third world war and it'll be a war like no other because of nuclear weapons the power of Weaponry I rebuilt our entire military she gave a lot of it away to the Taliban she gave it to Afghanistan what the these people have done to our country and maybe toughest of all is allowing millions of people to come into our country many of them are criminals and they're destroying our country the worst president the worst vice president in the history of our country president Trump thank you and that is our ABC News presidential debate from here in Philadelphia at the national Constitution Center I'm lindsy Davis and I'm David mure thank you for watching here in the US and all over the world and from all of us here at ABC news Brit Hume Dana Pino Harold Ford Jr Laura Ingram Jesse Waters plus Sean hity will be with us live from the spin room well the topics inflation abortion immigration Brit Hume Dana Pino Harold Ford Jr Laura Ingram Jesse Waters plus Sean Hannity will be with us live from the spin room well the topics inflation abortion immigration January 6th it took about 40 minutes to get to a question pressing vice president Harris on the list of changing policies from when she ran for president in 2019 about an hour before foreign policy came up the first question of the debate are you better off than you were four years ago never fully received an answer there however vice president Harris was clearly well prepared practiced on the offensive much of the night former president Trump did take a lot of the bait that she threw out in some of those answers but he pointed time and again as he did there at the end about what she has or has not done as vice president the question now is how much does this move the needle yeah I mean it has to be said that she was really never held to the fire she was not pressed by the moderators on her past positions and how she got from a very Progressive most Progressive Senator to where she is now um and that falls on ABC um and I think there were moments when it felt like they were helping her out and they were not helping him out um there were times when he didn't pivot as well as he should have to move on to some of the points that he no doubt wanted to make um he went down a few cat and dog holes uh rather than rabbit holes tonight which will be discussed no doubt I thought the strongest moments were foreign policy Iran when he talked about Ukraine Afghanistan and that closed why haven't you done it okay let's go Around the Horn uh Brit Hume thoughts well I thought the uh single question that needed to be answered tonight was Madame vice president why have you changed your position give us your thoughts on why you change position not just on the handful the small handful of issues that were raised by the moderators but on a range of other issues there were like two questions on the whole thing all evening she never had to account for her changes never she said she'd go down the list she never really she never did now look uh make no mistake about it Trump had a bad night uh he rose to the bait repeatedly when she baited him um something I'm sure his advisers had begged him not to do um you know in the first debate when Biden attacked him he just kept his cool and kept going um in this in this debate he rose to any and we heard so many of the old grievances that that we'd long thought that Trump had learned were not winners politically and there they all were you know I'm talking about how he didn't lose the election and all that I mean so my sense is that she came out of this in pretty good shape now how long this will last and and is is it is anybody's guess but um for for tonight at least this was pretty much her night you're saying she had a good night I'm saying she certainly did Sean Hannity is in the spin room uh thoughts on this debate Sean I agree said disagree on other parts of what he said I think the biggest loser in the debate and we talked about this pre-debate is ABC I you know the fact that we we didn't get to fundamental strong positions that K Harris had take taken um on very deep and profound issues involving the economy and immigration and and ending Private health care and defund and dismantle uh there were there was a lot of cliche a lot of rehearsal that I saw in in her performance okay that's fine that was anticipated um I was there were a lot of lies that she told about abortion about project 2025 about gun confiscation and that was frustrating on on a lot of fronts I think that the biggest epic fail here is that you know we're now 50 days in and early voting for example we're in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania tonight starts one week from tonight and then it rolls out in all these other swing states that matter I I I I don't the fact that we don't know if she still supports you know Free Housing Healthcare education and sex change operations for illegal immigrants is unfathomable to me after an hour and a half debate does she still support defund dismantle no bail laws does do we have an answer on no fracking and no drilling she didn't say that in 2000 even CNN fact checked her after her 16 minute and 29 seconds debate uh we we don't have answers on the economy bomic being a great success president Trump I thought was effective on the issue of okay three and a half years you've been vice president why haven't you gotten these things done and in many many ways that pass that she's gotten has been the greatest disservice I think tonight to the American people that's on ABC Disney uh that really shouldn't be the other candidate's job to be to be challenging them especially when you have muted microphones uh we don't know anything about kamla Harris and that's frustrating I didn't hear you what no that's it we were listening to you thank you Sean thank you Sean let's go to Harold Ford Jr Harold um your re your takeaway from tonight so I agree with Brett uh this what has to be thought of by supporters of Donald Trump uh and people in that campaign is a disappointment June 27th we talked about before was a kind of collapse for Joe Biden in some ways this has to be thought of as as a collapse in some ways I got reaction from Republican friends the two common things were train wreck and he needs this to end these are people who support him and I think we'll continue to support him I said about Joe Biden at night that he seemed all over the place he seemed unprepared and unorganized I get the sense I think ABC the the moderators could have done a better job but it's almost like if you're in a basketball game and you go up against playing a team that's taller than you you don't complain at any of the game they're taller than us we knew that before he's used to people piling on him he just didn't seem like he was ready remind if you're a voter watching tonight I was reminded of the great Dennis Green the former coach of the Vikings who said they are who we thought they were and Donald Trump tonight was that guy too she conveyed the calm she she conveyed a preparation did she answer all the questions about the the switches no but I would have thought that he would have raised some of those I know we said well should he have to do that when you're in a fight for what you believe is a fight for the country country in the soul of the country then you have to be willing to do those things finally um she was tenacious on Russia she had clarity about the future of the country he was a little too gloomy I thought and when asked I saw around the table I've never heard Donald Trump not be definitive about a set of plans he said I have concepts of a plan here we are 56 days from an election you've been president before he's got to recover from this and we'll see if there's another debate I hope the two of you are moderating if there is another debate and if I'm him I'm asking for one Speaking of which uh senior advisor to the harrish campaign Brian Fallon just sending out that was fun let's do it again in October um to that point fox has officially invited both campaigns uh to a debate in October uh we have sent a formal invitation as we had before and we've renewed that uh specifically for uh a debate to be hosted on Fox News in October we hope they take it up seems like the American people would love another opportunity to see these candidates it's been such a short window and they deserve as many opportunities as possible we certainly hope uh that they will take us up on that Jesse your thoughts I don't think the American people are watching and thinking any of these people won this was this was rough this was pretty intense at times she started off shaky she regained her footing but I thought she was going to come out with some of these memorable lines all the memorable lines were from Donald Trump Run Spot rum sh I'm speaking does that sound familiar wake Joe Biden up at 4:00 in the afternoon and go get him to sign this thing to close the border I took a bullet because you said I was a threat to democracy and they're eating the pets you know you watch this thing if you're a Democrat you're like oh she did a great job she was much more forceful than Joe Biden if you're a republican you look at this and you're like that's Donald Trump he had some moments when were like oh my God where are we going with this and then he just had some great knockouts and so this race just got tighter that's probably true we're going to see what exactly that looks like we we are we are just getting started on our analysis a PIV pivotal night in the 2024 campaign our coverage continues right after this very short bre stay with us kamla Harris was given one important job as vice president Monitor and control our Southern border how did she do did she take the job seriously did she do all she could to protect American citizens from an invasion did she do anything at all you haven't been to the Border I and I haven't been to Europe and I don't I don't understand the point that you're making here's her Grim scorecard murders rapes attacks on children a 12-year-old girl in Texas a mother of five in Maryland a nursing student in Georgia all savagely murdered by those Biden and Harris led into our country unlawfully we have a secure border kamla Harris was and is a complete failure at her job now she's asking us for a promotion who in their right mind would give it to her restoration pack is responsible for the content of this advertising [Music] welcome back that was something wasn't it final thoughts uh Dana Pino I think he got harder questions than she did um but he missed more opportunities and he he he took all the bait and none of the opportunities she pivoted better but there were a couple things like for example when when Harris brought up Charlottesville and the fine people hoax that was a great opportunity for the moderators to push back because that's an obvious one and they didn't do that so I think that the there if there's a grievance on on that part you'll see it I do think that he won on points on his first answer about the economy and then his last answer was good so if you only watch those two parts and if you like first impression and last impression you might leave with an impression that he did all right I'm surprised that her team came out already and offered a second debate because in my opinion I don't think she needs it because she has shown that she doesn't have to do anything have to do Media or anything and now all of her surrogates and her spokespeople can say she already answered that already answered that so they they could just try to figure out a way to Coast bring all that money in and try to spend it and try to win Pennsylvania which is key for her yeah but um you know it's all about the swing States Laura obviously and if she if her people look at tonight and they say look she did well her confidence is growing she wants to reach out and try to win those swing States we should do it yeah I mean I think at the end of all this she prepared for a couple weeks uh she moved the points a little bit on on the betting markets but in the end we all know what we knew before that ABC's goal tonight was to help kamla Harris and ABC did help kamla Harris now did Donald Trump miss a few opportunities absolutely did she miss a few opportunities yes she did especially when he said you're right I fired those people because I fire people who are incompetent I thought that was one of the strongest moments of the debate there's very little accountability in all of government and this has happened across administrations so I think in the end if the steel workers in Pennsylvania want to keep their job if the Auto Workers in Michigan want to keep their jobs they see this debate and they see one person standing up for them and it's still Donald Trump but Brit you know you look at the CNN interview with Dana Bash that she does alongside her her nominee Tim walz this is a different person who was well prepped absolutely well prepared had answers and knew where she was going not only a different person from the person she was in that interview on CNN but a different person from the absolute underhead uh so many of us thought she was during her conduct as vice president when she would come out with these ludicrous statements and started nowhere and ended in midair unburdened by the past un unburdened by Common Sense and and here she was tonight she was composed she was prepared she kept her cool she saw advantages she took them she baited him successfully which is the story of the debate in my view um so she came out ahead in this in my opinion uh no doubt now now whether it'll move the needle in the race very few things seem to but but um but that remains to be seen what are you can say does it move the needle though it may or may not but think about this most people didn't know her they heard the leadup that she was going to be unprepared that she was was a cackler that she didn't she had mismanaged things you watched this tonight and you don't know much about this you say all right when am I going to see that person because you saw a different person this evening now I'm delighted that there's going to be a second debate at least there's an eagerness and a willingness on the part of them to do it again uh because I think these questions should be asked of the vice president about the shift in positions but what I don't get and I all of you all I respect everybody on this panel why didn't he ask these questions of her I mean if you're in the if you believe that your candidacy is that important to the country and they say be mean Spirit about it he he had some moments where he was a little mean he could have asked the question about the shifting shifting positions now should the moderators have done it no doubt but if I was on that stage I would have asked those questions tonight she won if she's asking for another debate though they don't think she won this debate um hands down they would be at to Dana's Point saying M drop we're done they don't think that she's in a position right now to win this race they need another I don't disagree I think it's an even race I just think she she she won tonight let's hope that they say yes and again we have the formal invite out there um this has been quite something because there was a lot of buildup to this moment yeah there was a lot of buildup the question is how many people watched for how long and how much did it move this race because it's as tight a race as we have ever seen in this country and last time we sat here uh Joe Biden was running against President Trump so who knows what's going to happen next thank you all for tuning in tonight and joining us for the presidential debate Hannity is up right now [Music] all right thank you pet thank you Martha welcome to Hannity we are live we are in the spin room and we are in Philadelphia Pennsylvania with the first and only scheduled debate between Donald Trump and kamla Harris is officially now in the books in just a moment we're going to get reaction from Senator Marco Rubio senator Ted Cruz Trump's running mate JD Vance and Robert Kennedy Jr but first in case you missed it here's how it all went out I don't say h because she has no policy everything she believed three years ago and four years ago is out the window she's going to My Philosophy now in fact I was going to send her a Maga hat she's gone to My Philosophy but if she ever got elected she'd change it and it will be the end of our country she's a Marxist everybody knows she's a Marxist will she allow abortion in the e8th month 9th month 7th month come on okay would you do that why don't you ask that question why don't you answer the would the question would you V do abortions in the seventh month the eighth month the n9th month they allowed criminals many many millions of criminals they allowed terrorists they allowed Common Street criminals they allowed people to come in drug dealers to come into our country and then now in the United States fracking she's been against it for 12 years uh defund the police she's been against that forever she gave all that stuff up very wrongly very horribly and everybody's laughing at it okay [Music] all right what you didn't hear tonight was any substance from kamla Harris about pretty much anything she delivered pre a lot of pre-rehearsed memorized platitudes lines plenty of attacks this was I hate Trump I hate Trump I hate Trump and I hate Trump more anyway with lots of kind of weird faces and expressions we still don't have answers where she stands on deep funding the police electric vehicle mandates mandatory gun confiscation which he lied about Medicare for all the $93 trillion Green New Deal she co-sponsored in the US Senate with Bernie Sanders banning plastic straws reducing red me consumption up to a 70 or 80% income tax rate Biden nomics we call it Biden nomics and we're proud of it offshore drilling fracking decriminalizing illegal immigration Free Housing Health Care education college education and now sex change uh surgery provided by taxpayers we did didn't hear about the border wall that she was against that now she's for and we didn't hear about illegal immigrants and returning home late late term abortion she didn't answer the question about restrictions about months Seven 8 and nine and the list goes on and on leftwing moderators The Biggest Loser of the night ABC Disney Bob iger's Network it was a disgrace they barely asked her about important issues we've got 56 days until an election early voting starts in this Commonwealth in seven days you know in between so-called backchecking and clapbacks only against Donald Trump cuz Kam didn't offer any details on her own as predicted tonight's debate was three onone anyway joining us now from the spin room Florida Senator my Senator free state of Florida Marco Rubio senator how are you he was doing a big Gaggle before I walked over taing on the back he's my senator they were impressed the reporters were impressed the biggest I think failure for the tonight was ABC yeah it's an embarrassment it's an embarrassment to journalism I mean it's on issue I mean there literally there was times where they would say Donald Trump why did you do or say this horrible thing and then the question to KL Harris is how what do you think about the horrible thing that Donald Trump did there was no listen they didn't ask grocery bills are up 50% from 2020 50% what do you say about that Comm Harris how are you going to deal with that they didn't ask her about the Afghan they let her get away with this lie that Joe Biden didn't withdraw us from Afghanistan Joe Biden was run out of Afghan in humiliating fashion um even the fact Checkers were wrong where she said oh there's no state in the country where there's lot there are multiple States in this country including Tim walson Minnesota where if a baby is born in botched abortion they allow the baby to die okay and then they let her get away with not answering what restrictions she would be supportive of see this is a frustrating thing is when you have three onone and you have a fact like you just laid out about Tim Walls and his position on on late term abortion and Donald Trump was 100% right he was talking about Governor nor well first the baby will be born and make the baby comfortable then the doctor will talk to the mother uh but that's not the point months seven 8th and Ninth even people I know that are pro-choice that would be in fantas side of course but but here's the bottom line Americans know Donald Trump he was their president he's been campaigning out since 2016 they know his positions they know very little about K Harris tonight for the first time despite the best efforts of these moderators American began to learn that this was someone who was raising money to bail riers out of jail this was someone who said she wanted to defund ice this was someone who basically said that we should be paying for the sex change operations of illegal migrants and detention this was someone who accused the border patrol of whipping Haitian migrants at the border and this is someone that has been in the white house for four years talking about all these things she's going to do they've done none of them she talks about immigration and this bill they have the power in the law right now to enforce our immigration laws she she has no campaign plan she just unveiled her policy plan it was literally I'm not saying this new Republic a liberal leftwing magazine is saying it she literally cut and paste it from the Joe Biden uh did and and so think about it she is Joe Biden and worse because of what she stood for in 20196 days just bear with me the list no no restrictions on abortion for him and for her and her running mate mandatory gun buyback she lied about that at the end of the debate no border wall decriminalizing illegal immigration pre housing healthare care education free College in Minnesota legal driver's licenses we've had murder we've had rape we've had violent crime and now we're going to offer what taxpayer funded sex change operations she supports reparations the $93 trillion Green New Deal which would be the end of capitalism she co-sponsored it uh government health care for all the elimination of Private health insurance how does ABC not bring that up not a single one of those things was asked how that they not bring up she said we got to not say radical Islamic terrorism or illegal president Trump did a good job of injecting that in there and in the end of the debate he said the most important thing and that is she's been there for 4 years all these things she's promising they haven't done and frankly she wouldn't answer the most important question she was asked all night are Americans she was asked this are Americans better off today than they were four years ago she didn't even answer it she went on to talk about how she was born to a middle class family raised in Canada for part of that time and what apparently is not a middle class neighborhood but nonetheless she went into her biography and I I think she was exposed tonight the Talking Heads you know they analyze this because they all they all want to pretend like Comm Harris was born on July 24th of this year she has a record she has a record as a senator and she has a record as vice president and Americans ton I got a glimpse of who she really what she really believes what she really stands for and what direction she'll actually take our country and I think that was a big win a big win does this move the needle in your view I think it does because there's a lot of voted remember voters in the real world don't analyze this like the people that talk on cable news they're viewing it in their mindset okay who's this lady and they start hearing these things what hold on a second she helped bail out riers hold on a second she wouldn't answer the question about at what point should an abortion not be allowed you know the day before the due date she wouldn't answer that question they pick up on these things and for her to brag about Afghanistan she bragged about Afghanistan okay she said Joe Biden got he didn't get he was run out of there and not only did he was he run out of there we lost 90 billion worth of American equipment that they're parading down the street there are a lot of real people in the real world who are not political junkies who are going to vote and decide this election who watched tonight they saw the man that was president and they remember their lives were better when he was president they were safer they were more prosperous we were more respected in the world and then they saw this person they didn't know a lot about her and now they're beginning to learn facts about her that I think will be decisive Senator great to see it thank you appreciate it all right uh now according to the Washington Post the Harris campaign is now saying they want a second debate what does that tell us joining us with more reaction to tonight's debate Texas Senator Ted Cruz is with US senator how do you interpret that and your overall thoughts on this debate tonight well listen I'm skeptical that that Kamala team will have her do a second debate I think they're going to back out of that I think they're going to send her back to Joe Biden's basement I think we probably will not see kamla emerge again from the basement sort of like the groundhog in her Shadow she's not going to come out again from the basement until election night other than to go to for rallies and read from from teleprompters and listen I got to say tonight what what kamla demonstrated is number one she cannot defend her disastrous record her record is an absolute train wreck so instead what she did what we saw tonight in this quote debate was her repeating memorize set pieces from her stump speech and from her convention speech the very opening question the most important question in any election are you better off now than you were four years ago she refused to answer that because she couldn't answer that because nobody unless you are a Mexican drug lord nobody else is better off than they were four years ago so she didn't answer that instead she's like I'm from a middle class family I want things better for you and no aspect on inflation she didn't address that she cast the tiebreaking vote on trillions of dollars of spending that caused inflation hurting Americans across this country on energy she didn't address that she and Joe Biden have waged war on American Energy over and over and over again driving up the PO cost of gasoline and everything else for Americans on On the Border she didn't address her own personal responsibility The Invasion the crime the murders the the women sexually assaulted the children brutalized she didn't take responsibility for any of that and and then on foreign policy I actually thought on foreign policy she was the weakest it was absurd when she turned to Donald Trump and says well everyone knows you were weak and ineffective listen if Donald Trump were still in the White House the two Wars that broke out under her leadership and Joe Biden's would not have happened Russia would not have invaded Ukraine and we would not have the war in in in Israel and she she took no responsibility for that weakness nor did she have a word to say about the over $100 billion dollar that she and Joe Biden have flowed to Iran all of her records she ran away from and I got to say the ABC moderators were complicit in her running a completely factree debate performance I think that's well said Senator I mean and there's so much that we don't understand defund dismantle reimagine ice the police the minneap they wanted to talk about January 6th there was 600 riots in the summer of 2020 she tweets out the Minnesota the Minnesota Bell fund 4 days after the police precinct is burned and you know they won't stop they shouldn't stop we're not going to stop all all things that she said 18 to 24 year olds are stupid abolish the filibuster to pass the green New Deal inflation is transitory the border secure we're proud of Biden nom the country needs to be woke we'll never Deport illegals um and now we're going to give free sex change operations to uh convicted felons and illegal immigrants how's that going to go over in your state of Texas I would imagine not so well look it goes over terribly but what you just did what I just did is what the Trump campaign needs to do between now and election day which is lay out the actual facts of her record because she won't confront them so so for example on abortion she she said no no no I'm I'm not for late term abortions eight and N month abortions well she has voted for legislation that would legalize abortion up until the moment of birth when she says I don't know what you're talking about abortion after birth well Cala Harris voted against the born alive infant protection act which said that says that if in the course of an abortion a baby is alive is breathing is outside the womb you can't just kill the baby she voted no and so her actual record needs to be systematically laid out when it comes to Crime this is someone who has supported defund the police this is someone who has supported defund ice this is someone kamla Harris who compared ice the Immigration and Customs Enforcement uh agency to the KKK but we need to make sure those facts get before the American people because ABC is not going to do it the corporate media is not going to do it and and listen her radical record is radical the same way my opponent Colin all who's running against me both of them vote repeatedly in favor of open borders both of them vote for trillions of dollars of spending we don't have both of them vote for the war against oil and gas and American Energy both of them vote in favor of defunding the police that's their record but I got to tell you the left right now they are flooding money to KLA Harris they're flooding money to my opponent because they want to deceive the American people both kamla Harris and my opponent are running ads with Donald Trump Trump's border wall in it even though both of them have opposed it their entire careers the hypocrisy is enormous which is why we need to bring the facts back up and and prosecute this case on the merits all right Senator Ted Cruz we appreciate you being with us joining us now is 2024 Republican Vice Presidential nominee Senator JD van Senator great to see you how are you getting ready for your debate yeah got a lot of pointers this evening okay all right let's get your overall take think I think the thing that's frustrating to me and a lot of people well number one I think three onone was a little frustrating uh number two the the topics that are so relevant the radical positions that she's taken sure when I first interviewed you the at the first interview you did Y when you were Vice President when you announced to be the candidate uh I asked you every hard question and you answered every one of and I kept you longer cuz you it was supposed to be 10 minutes I kept you 30 uh is being very nice and all these radical positions she's taken still no answers we have not moved the ball an inch it is frustrating it is frustrating and the moderators I think did a terrible job at following up on that but look I think president Trump did a good job at reminding the American people that this is a person who wanted to ban fracking here we are in Pennsylvania she supported Banning fracking she supported defunding the police uh she supported opening the border and I think that though the moderators didn't do their job I think president Trump did do his job in reminding the American people that she has taken a number of radical positions that as he joked she's run away from now she's acting like Donald Trump she's about to put on a Maga hat because she realizes way her radical that was a pretty good line it was it was my favorite moment of the debate um but she is a radical who is trying to run towards Donald Trump's positions because she knows that's what's popular but it's not what she actually believes and I think that if you go to her performance Sean the most striking part of it is if you actually listen to what she said it was platitude after platitude after SL Logan there was no substance how is she going to lower grocery prices for American citizens rehearse cliche use everything that you want to say and and the bottom line is fundamental I hate Trump that's exactly right and also look both of them have records that's what's different about this election almost any other election in my lifetime you have two people with a record Donald Trump is proud of his record kamla Harris is running away from her record because her record is higher grocery prices homes that are unaffordable a wideopen southern border Rising fentol deaths this is happening because of her failed leadership and all we need to remind the American people of and I think Donald Trump did a great job of this tonight is the reason why these problems happen is because kamla Harris failed to do her job you know the thing is she she's 50 days and prior to tonight the she does one interview no press conferences you're out there every day between you and president Trump you you're nearing what 50 combined sure and it's it's still a mystery it's like the candidate Protection Program and the media keeps her in there you know I have all of these files the comma files the walls files them in their own words this was all available to ABC tonight you said this about fracking you said this about drilling you said this about sex change operations uh that taxpayers pay for for criminals and for illegal immigrants Free Housing Health Care education for illegal immigrants uh the elimination of private healthcare uh all of these positions that she's taken you know and it's it's amazing that we're this far that we're this close to an election we don't have these answers that's exactly right well she's running a campaign based on Vibes and she's running Vibes what the hell is a Vibe are we in the 60s it feels like it sometimes I feel like watching kamla Harris like I'm taking some psychedelics but look she is a total disaster Sean and she runs away from her record this is the most striking thing is if you're the vice president you've been in power for 3 and 1/2 years is she running by saying look what we did to lower your grocery prices look what we did to make the world more secure she can't because her record is one a failure and we just have to remind the American people of this Sean I mean look I think if you watch the debate you're sitting at home you're an undecided voter what you saw is a person who repeats slogans instead of respecting you enough to treat you like an adult you know Donald Trump and he gets criticized by this by the left for this by the way Donald Trump actually answers the questions because he respects the American people enough to treat them like citizens that's why he does every day debate that's why he goes out there and talks to people because he thinks he ought to try to win the people's vote not just have it given to you she also told a lot of lies about project 2025 project 2025 is her radical agenda for her a National Abortion ban that wasn't true she lied about uh her saying in 2000 no I didn't say I'm I'm for fracking uh mandatory gun buyback she said at the end of the debate oh no I never said that uh I'm a gun owner I'm like that is exactly what you said yes you did it's on tape we have it we played it that's right well that's the entire trick here right is the media is helping K Harris run away from a record but we have her on tape saying all these things Sean and by the way when she said that she supported a ban on fracking then she changed her view in 2020 that's another complete fabrication she has never once changed her view that she wanted to ban fracking and you're an American sitting she became the presumptive nominee well that's right she traded her mind in 2024 but not in 2020 so another complete fabrication but think about this if you're a Pennsylvania energy worker or you're an American suffering from high utility and energy bills comma Harris is telling you she wants to make you pay more and she wants to put these energy workers out of a job it's a disgrace but it's what she said in her own words and we've got a record of success to run on we just have to keep on doing it let me ask you this because I think this is very important so with 56 days but we have early voting we're one week away where early voting starts here in Pennsylvania you spend you're spending a lot of time in Wisconsin Michigan Pennsylvania sure and one has to wonder you know to what extent has H has her past statements and radical positions penetrated the consciousness of the American people look I think they penetrated a little bit and it's our job over the remaining 56 days of the campaign and you're right early voting starts in just a couple of weeks it's our job to make it penetrate Johan we have to do this every single day we have to remind the American people of what she said is look this is not complicated we just have to tell the truth KLA Harris wanted a ban fracking she wanted to defund the police she said it all on video we just have to remind people of what she said and by the way Sean it's not just reminding people what she said it's reminding what Donald Trump did and has plans to do again we had Prosperity we had peace we had the American dream that started to feel alive again thanks to Donald Trump's leadership Sean you know I believe this I think we've got the best workers the best history and cultural traditions in the world we've got the best natural resources in the most beautiful country we have got failed leadership that is ruining our great inheritance as a country we just need better leadership it's that simple good to see you man Senator good to see you appreciate it what we seeing out on the campaign Trail uh all right one issue that did get a lot of attention from ABC's far-left moderators was the weaponization of our department of justice Donald Trump still made it a point of emphasis take a look every one one of those cases was started by them against their political opponent and I'm winning most of them and I will win the rest on appeal and you saw that with the decision that came down just recently from the Supreme Court I'm winning most of them but those are cases it's called weaponization never happened in this country they weaponized the justice department every one of those cases was involved with the doj from Atlanta and fonny Willis to to the uh Attorney General of New York and the da of New York every one of those cases and then they say oh he was he's a criminal they're the ones that made them go after me it's weaponization and they used it and it's never happened in this country they used it to try and win an election fake cases all right joining us now someone who knows firsthand about the weaponization of Justice live from the spin room Robert F Kennedy Jr great to see you how are you good to see you Sean um you left your party a party that that was near and dear to your father to your uncle I think it it has no resemblance to the Democratic party today and this is the frustrating part about tonight the radicalization the views stated by comma you know they weren't asked by the by the moderators to me it was it was a failed opportunity I think the American people were failed tonight it was yeah I was disappointed by the the evident bias of the moderators who were fact cheing constantly kind of trivialities by President Trump but didn't as far as I saw they didn't fact check uh vice president Harris a single time but you're right Sean that the party that I grew up in doesn't exist anymore the party of Robert Kennedy and John Kennedy was a party of Peace it was the party of resisting the the corporate subversion of American democracy it was the party of civil rights and constitutional rights particularly censorship very opposed to censorship and surveillance it was uh the party of protecting the uh the the most vulnerable people in our society including particularly children today the Democratic party is the party of War it's the party of uh of censorship it's the party of surveillance we saw Dick Cheney and John Bolton Andor along with 255 neocons endorsed uh president vice president Harris this week they came out of Exile where where they were sent after the Patriot Act they were sent after the war in Iraq the biggest foreign policy debacle and American history and they're not endorsing president vice president uh Harris because they've changed their minds they're endorsing her because she represents their worldview more censorship more war more surveillance and less Liberty and constitutional rights a lot in the course of your campaign they talk about democracy and peril but everything the the entire force of the democratic establishment if you will they just they just went in for the political you know death of of of of your campaign they did not want you to get to they didn't want you to get a first base uh you know ballot that's the other thing is that they've abandoned democracy at the Democratic party is now about centralized control it's about losing faith in the deos the people and about abolishing elections abolishing our ability to hear different points of view to hear this and I'm in my case of course they got rid of the primaries they literally abolished many of the primaries so that President Biden wouldn't have to debate me wouldn't have to run against me let me let me dip in I guess uh K is at one of her watch parties or something I don't know what she's saying let's just dip in for a second and let me just say that I think we all know that tonight was a night that high something that you all have been working so hard on we have folks here who have been knocking on doors well you know uh we but we have a lot of work to do okay and tonight I think highlighted for the American people what's at stake I started the debate by talking about it and it became apparent I think throughout those that about an hour and a half that so obviously she's going to go out there and and her team the thing that I I I learned about her tonight is you know being hidden away for days and days and days on end you can learn your rehearse lines and it doesn't matter if you tell the truth cuz she wasn't fact checked she told a lot of lies about Trump in 2025 lies about mandatory gun buybacks which he did support uh lying about fracking lying about a National Abortion ban that Donald Trump doesn't support and you know it's hard when when you've got the three on one like that but that's what I expect we're now she's been in this campaign 50 days we only have 56 days till election day but early voting for example I've been pointing out tonight starts right here one week from tonight there's a lot of information about her stated views and her own words that people don't know about what would you advise the Trump people to do to get better here was the most telling part of the debate to me well she didn't get fact checked on the first question are Americans better off than they were four years ago there's no metric that you can use to make that case and she was allowed to then go and give this kind of biographical sketch of herself without ever asking that question and they never demanded that she ask it today we have doubled the inflation that we had under President Trump we have all right hang on one second president Trump is in the in the spin room and let's listen in do we have audio that foreign trade everything and I think it was the best debate I've ever personally that I had we're getting calls that show 9 speak louder 88 to 11 we're having a lot of great calls that just came out calls and lots of other PS but you see the PS a very important debate now she wants to do another one cuz she got beaten tonight but I don't know why wouldn't you look at her the polls are indicating that we got 90% 60% 72% 71 % and 89% where are you getting these numbers from very good beyond the BS I felt very good I had a good time doing it I hate to speak about our country so negatively but that's what happened they've ruined our country they've destroyed our country so I hope you're all having a good time it was a very interesting did she get under your skin sir compliment you one tonight why are you here why not let the performance speak for itself well I think it did but people said would I come here and I made an obligation to couple of people their show I thought it was a great night what about I have no uans areain that I moderat but it basically was three onone but I thought they were very unfair everybody did but despite that they're saying Mr pres president why not a second debate I assume Mr President why not a second debate she wants a secondate l they immediately called for a second debate because they lost so we'll you know think about that but she immediately called for look will you do it will you do it the worst the worst call that we had 71 that I see 71% like 24 Mr President did she get up 11 [Music] right all right Jo we can't really hear a lot of it uh I've just been told president Trump may make his way over here and join us live which would be great uh but first we have uh the free state of Florida Governor my Governor Ron de santis is with us Governor D santis great to have you sir how are you I'm doing good Sean good to see you you know we you kind of had your own little version of a kind of big moment debate with with Gavin Nome which I thought was a lot of fun for me to be able to be a part of and moderate um these debates are interesting I I would argue that was far more substantive than kamla Harris and cliches and no questions about the most radical positions any one person has ever taken in her life and and that to me is a failure of ABC I think they're The Biggest Loser of everybody tonight and they did a disservice to the American people uh because there's so much that they did not ask her that we need answers to you still support the green New Deal that would destroy capitalism do you still support you know government run health care for all it would eliminate Private health insurance do you still support you know Free Housing Health Care education oh and sex change operations for illegals uh no fracking no drilling uh defund dismantle I mean there's so much there it is be I'm I'm at this point getting frustrated that we nobody will pin her down or even ask her that's frustrating to me well right I mean there's there's way different ways you can moderate you know when CNN did the debate with Biden and Trump you know I'll give Dana Bash and um Tapper credit they asked questions they got out of the way they were substantive uh they really weren't biased and we you know for CNN I think a lot of people were surprised this one uh they only asked the follow-ups to Donald Trump to try to pin him down they tried to fact check him but fact checking him on things that he was right on uh like some of the late term abortion laws in some of the liberal states Donald Trump was right about that and they incorrectly fact checked him they never fact checked Camala Harris she repeated lies like the uh Charlottesville fine people hoax and other things never called her to account but you're right Sean from the very first question she was asked are Americans better off today than they were four years ago she did not answer the question she started rambling on about growing up in a middle class family which I'm sure is nice uh but that doesn't answer why you have been in power for three and a half years and Americans are worse off they did not pin her down and ask follow-up questions on all her flip-flops she acts like she's always been a big supporter of fracking never addressed uh her open borders past and so yes it was a three-on-one debate it was disappointing that she didn't have her feet held to the fire by the moderators they went out of their way to try to do that to Donald Trump but I think people that take away from this debate even with all that Donald Trump is the candidate that's going to change things Camala Harris is the candidate that as as president Trump said in his closing statement she's been there three and a half years why hasn't she fixed any of these problems during that time she does not have an answer to that question you know it doesn't but you know at some point isn't it really the the moderators isn't that their job I mean if you say you want a $93 trillion Green New Deal and you're going to eliminate the filibuster to pass it shouldn't we ask that if you want to mandate you know government health care and eliminate private insurance shouldn't that have come up in this debate if you want sex change operations paid for by taxpayers for convicted criminals and illegal immigrants don't you think that would come up in a debate yeah well it was all about looking at all this stuff through a left of Center prism so they were hitting Trump on of course January 6 they were hitting Trump on some of his statements about holding people accountable uh all these different things uh that's right out of what a left of center person would do they never hit her from the right she took more liberal positions when she ran for president than Bernie Sanders did on a wide variety of issues and yet they acted like that wasn't even worth bringing up especially as she's trying to present herself to the American people as some one much different than the US senator who took all those very left-wing positions whether it's abolishing Private health insurance whether it's abolishing fracking or whether it's paying for with taxpayer dollars as you mentioned Sean sex change operations for illegal aliens uh you've got to be kidding me and yet they never Broach those subjects in a serious way all right Governor Dan santis we appreciate you being with us joining us now is RNC co-chair Laura Trump there is a chance I think your father-in-law is making his way over here if he can get through the mob crazier things have happened Sean so we'll see yes we'll see yeah okay you watched the debate let's get your overall view yeah I mean it was three-on-one it was sort of what we expected KLA Harris got up there she lied she brought up project 2025 not just once but multiple times knowing full well that's something Donald Trump is disavowed he says I have nothing to do with it and unfortunately for the American people I don't think there was anything they took away from this debate tonight that was substantive there wasn't an opportunity for you know there to be a debate about how is your life going to be better if one of these two people is in the white house now Donald Trump fortunately has been president for 4 years and he was able to remind people how much better off their life was and how much worse off you are right now while kamla Harris is in the white house but three-on-one what we expected and um a lot of platitudes not a lot of information from com it it you know you look at it from so many different angles and you know as I've been bringing up throughout the night tonight I mean all these radical positions she's gone 50 plus days without answering those questions we have early voting starting in the state in a week and is this something that you have to communicate through ads is this something that I I mean she they're saying that they want a second debate I I don't I don't know if I trust anything that they say to be honest I mean she told a lot of lies tonight about President Trump yeah and unfortunately they didn't fact check a single one of those Sean imagine that I look Donald Trump would love another debate he would love three debates cuz that's traditional what you do for for presidential elections obviously we know that that's probably not going to happen but what we're going to do is we're going to have to talk to the American people and guess who's here Donald Trump himself came cuz he couldn't actually talk to the American people he's going to take your time but I hate yeah that's okay he can have it all right we'll talk with President Trump in just a second but the former president called out kamla's election year flipflops and even joked about sending her a Maga hat take a look we hardly make chips anymore because of uh philosophies like they have and policies like they have I don't say her because she has no policy everything that she believed three years ago and four years ago is out the window she's going to My Philosophy now in fact I was going to send her a Maga hat she's gone to My Philosophy but if she ever got elected she'd change it and it will be the end of our country she's a Marxist everybody knows she's a Marxist her father's a Marxist professor in economics and he taught her well but when you look at what she's done to our country and when you look at these millions and millions of people that are pouring into our country monthly where it's I believe 21 million people not the 15 that people say and I think it's a lot higher than the 21 that's bigger than New York State pouring in and just look at what they're doing to our country Mr I feel good all right joining us now he's the set in the spin room himself did you have fun I had a good time I think it was our best debate ever I thought it was really good we had three against one but I anticipated let's talk about that three against one and all of her radical positions they leave on the table yeah now we had a lot of uh a lot of negative kind of stuff look I saw on your show last night they had 100% positive coverage on ABC and I had 94% negative coverage 93 93% I exagger you got an extra perent non negative um as you were with her tonight to think that we come out of this debate and we have no answer to her co-sponsoring the green New Deal $93 trillion I say the end of capitalism to come out of this you know government run health care and no answer to eliminating Private health insurance the fact we brought them all up you know every one of the things that you we brought it all up and I also ended with why hasn't she done it before Why didn't she fix you know she's there complaining why didn't she fix all these things you really willing to leave the stage and and go home if she was going to go fix it in Washington no you know what I would have left I would have said go home and fix it I'll leave with you okay but she doesn't she's not going to fix it so she's complaining about all the stuff that's wrong with the country and they've been there for three and a half years and I put that I wanted to save that for my last little summation and I actually mentioned in there too I just thought it was a great debate I think we we showed the weakness but the sad part is is they're destroying our country you know when you get right down to it debate good debate I enjoyed it but it's a very sad thing because our country is in Decline we are really being laughed at all over the world and uh that's that's tough to take do you think it's strange that somebody could support something as radical as sex change operations paid for by taxpayers for convicts and illegal immigrants and for illegal immigrants Free Housing Healthcare education and not get asked a question about it and but I I brought it up course they weren't so happy when I brought it up but I brought it up I brought up the fact that they're doing sex change operations on illegal immigrants and those are expensive operations and they shouldn't be done for a lot of reasons there were a lot of things said that weren't true about you tonight that you would support a National Abortion ban you've never said that that you support project 25 you never read it I don't even know what it is either I don't want to read it okay number two that that she said in 2000 I I took back my position on Banning no CNN fact checked that and said no uh the mandatory gun buyback at the end of the debate she lied about that too that's right that's right she wants to confiscate I I called her out on everything that you said uh I think I got everything out now with all of that being said I was amazed cuz I really thought that'd be fair I have to say CNN a few weeks ago was sort of fair against Biden but this one was stacked I figured it would be after watching 100% positive coverage of her and she's done a terrible job as vice president and look she's the worst vice president we've ever had she was the bordar the worst border ever in the history of the world not just in our country and he's the worst president we've ever had so she's the largest tax increase not only in American history but world history her campaign is saying tonight Washington Post is reporting that she wants a second debate what's your answer she lost she wants it because she lost do you have an answer well I don't know I have to think about it but if you won the debate I sort of think maybe I shouldn't do it why should I do another debate she immediately said we want another debate that's you know what happen when you're a prize fighter and you lose you immediately won a new fight want a rematch you want a rematch the guy that won is sort of happy and thinking about it would you be inclined to say yes or you maybe if it was on a fair Network I would do that but I think let Hannity moderate it yeah no I think I did Nome and Ronda I it be fair you would be fair actually you want to know the truth be I'd let you both talk i' let you go each other I thought they would be fair they weren't but I felt very comfortable yeah we have the best policy she has no policy you know one thing that interested me cuz I've known you for a long time and one of the things that I I was watching in you tonight is that you were just you were all business you know a lot of times when you're at your rallies or we do a town hall Sean they're destroying our country is that what it was is it the serious the there's nothing to smile about you know I can I'm a good Smiler but there's nothing to smile about they're destroying we have 21 million people that have been released into our country and many of them are criminals and terrorists and and people from mental Insel Mor josely Nary you know I list all these names on the show of people murdered people raped people victims of violent crime names A lot of people never heard of you've called Lake and Riley's family you I was with them I was with them who else do you met all families met the families of met them all Afghanistan Nary I met I met you met n Gary's yeah I met uh five or six of them not even talking about the 13 soldiers that were killed in Afghanistan the families of the 13 soldiers which Biden won't even talk to and he's the one that caused them not even talking about the 13 soldiers that were killed in Afghanistan the families of the 13 soldiers which Biden won't even talk to and he's the one that caused their death just as if he had a pistol in his hand he and her caused their death just as if literally they had a gun in their hand yeah it's pretty amazing when you're in a situation like that what is going through your mind what is what goes what goes on behind the scenes how do you prepare for your debates well I think you sort of I always say I've been preparing all my life for these debates you know you can't go in like she did she goes into a room and she memorized lines more or less I thought I got one cute one I'm talking when I said I'm talking when she started interrupting me well she said that to Mike P even for that you know that was not very nice what she did but no I thought it was uh we're getting we're getting great reviews it's interesting the the one thing one line that really stuck out that did make me laugh out loud is when you said you're going to send her a Maga hat there are a lot of positions now all of a sudden she's come over to your side she's been against the border wall she's been against there's only one problem if she ever won immediately from the day after that biggest oil site perhaps in the world in Alaska they did things that are so bad and so destructive but Energy prices started doubling up and she immediately went back to the Trump plan but I would have been now four times higher than they are right now because that was three and a half years ago right when she cut it she cut everything immediately went back to the Trump plan but I would have been now four times higher than they are right now because I was three and a half years ago right when she cut it she cut everything out she went to wind and went to all this other stuff that doesn't work from an economic standpoint and even a visual standpoint I don't get the wind you take these gorgeous Plains and deserts and all this stuff they put these windmills up they go up like a 30-story building in some cases they destroy everything they cut out all and the environmentalists say aren't they wonderful but it's the most expensive form of energy and it's never going to do for our country so if we look at the issues on the economy on immigration on Law and Order on energy and America's role in the world yeah um is there anything you could point to that you would say they have been successful on no they have been unsuccessful at everything and even the economy I said as part of the economy you've let 21 million people more than that I think with all the Goda ways that's killing our terrorists and we do have the murders and the rapes and the violent crimes oh and you haven't seen anything yet what do you see it in the months to come you know what scares me and I've said this on the air is by having open borders unvetted illegal immigrants that I don't think it's a matter of if I think it's a matter of when that this country is going to be attacked if you look at uh Springfield Ohio look at what's happening there you look at Aurora in in Colorado these beautiful little towns and little cities small city they're being taken over by illegal migrants I mean the people that poured in and they have weapons like our military doesn't have you know they have AK-47s they have weapons like our military doesn't have and you know some sheriff in one of these towns where he's got two deputies and they they're not into this there's no way they can protect the people from this but look at what's going on in Springfield today it's nobody's ever seen anything like uh we really appreciate I know your people are calling for you to uh roll uh what made you come to the spin R I just felt I wanted to I was very happy with the result it's a very unfair situation uh they've weaponized our government politically so I mean that's unfair and I just felt we had a great night and I'd come over here actually gave a little bit of a news conference we were swarm by the way I could hear it you you interrupting my show by the way just for the rec I had to come over and do yours I would hate like heck to leave here and I didn't do I would be mad I would take that as a personal offense would been in big trouble um all right so no answer on their offer for a second debate again the reason you do a second debate is if you lose and they lost and we looked at one poll it was 92 to7 yeah we looked at another one 86 to3 wow I mean we have all of these results coming in but I'll think about it you know very quick uh Mr President thank you taking time we really appreciate it thank you sir all right uh by the way tomorrow you by the way you're going to be on Fox and Friends tomorrow I am indeed 6:45 in the morning oh bud and then I'm going down to you're going to get a lot of sleep tonight then I'm going down to the World Trade Center to honor the people that died September 11th you know what scares me we have known terrorists in the country yeah and we don't know where they are and then and that's and we don't even know about the Goda ways more than we've ever had before times 10 scary yep scary all right uh president Trump will be on Fox and 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is the only time I'll ever be tall I'm still not taller than him and he's said down uh terribly moderated debate three against the best closing in presidential debate history if you could have done it why didn't you do it one thing I wish we' have done a little bit better is I gave you the most secure Border in 40 years years when I left mortgage rates were below 3% gas was $187 we're energy independent I were getting the Arabs and the Israelis making peace and you screwed it all up and you're never going to fix it it's amazing how we don't how much we don't know about her radical positions absolutely not after this debate because ABC sucked that bad yes they did they really did and every position she's ever had it's like a jailhouse Jesus conversion what she believed before she doesn't believe again I look at as a Comm of the BC before the convention she was absolutely opposed to fracking the energy industry has been decimated under this Administration think about the Border why would she said she changed the position in 2000 yes 100% to was it wasn't just that though the Border she now wants a wall they've allowed the greatest invasion in the history of our country to pour across our the people in South Carolina I am sure have no problem with free housing Health Care education and sex change operation for illegal aliens and convicted felons I mean how do you not ask that question how do you not ask we need moderators that are not an extension of the Kam Harris for president campaign that's true thank you so you know I'm always going to give it to you straight so a few things I would say is did she exceed the very low that were that being said if you fact one fact real you have to apply the same standard the other they absolutely failed to do that think the strongest moment for either candidate that will matter 3 weeks from now is actually Donald Trump being crystal clear on his position Harris in their campaign have consistently been stating outright as though it's a fact that he would sign a federal abortion ban he Job saying that this is an issue for the states it's is where different Republicans may even differ but he got a chance to make his position known on one of the issues where Democrats were trying to hang Republicans out to drive and I thought he excelled that it's the most underappreciated part I actually think you're right on on the money here because I think the reason we didn't have the Red Wave in 20 22 was because of that issue and it was demagogue to death and Li about by step what do you think some of the best moments were so thank you so much for the step of your step everything you said you're going to do to make our country better you've had 3 and half years Where Have You Been why don't you go back to Washington tonight why don't you go do something while you're still in power we're nation in Decline he made the case we're going in the wrong direction and he nailed at the End by saying you're all talk you're not going to pass a bill to restore road too you're not you're all talk he's already done it we you know the numbers as well as anybody you're brilliant the lowest unemployment rate for demographic groups all across the country under his four years the poorest Americans had their wages growing faster than the richest Americans we saw funding for HBCU hit a record number under Donald Trump here's a president that created more than 7 million jobs 2/3 going to women and minorities but beyond that a 9% raise for our military the president of the United States is a strong commander and chief no Brown Wars in Europe no uh Force invasion in Israel we need four more years of Donald Trump I look at the situation on the border Free Housing Healthcare education and sex change operations but more importantly we have all these dead Americans it's not just lak and Riley and Rachel Moren and josa Nary it is dozens and dozens of murdered Americans raped Americans violent crimes against Americans the cost to Americans and we have known terrorists in the country now Lindsay I bring this up to you and I see your face go white every time it is how how is every American not like wanting that Bard secure so I thought actually I thought on the substance Trump nailed it on the abortion question but my favorite moment of the debate was actually on this question where the essence of this debate was kaml Harris's words versus her action actions speak louder than words and I think Donald Trump nailed it was that moment in the debate where he looked at her and said why don't we just end this now you go back to Washington DC and you and your boss either sign a bill or sign an executive action closing the border now is that more important than anything could said tonight they don't need legislation and I think the way he highlighted that that almost gets to the philosophical core of tonight's debate it's all talk you have the chance to go with action to actually solve that problem and you're not for me I thought that was the single most powerful moment where he landed on the single most important issue in this election which is mass illegal migration into the country ecy and we didn't even get to our high taxes unrealized capital gains other there's so much on the table tomorrow is 911 in about 30 something seconds I've never been more worried about another 911 for two reasons our withdrawal from Afghanistan put as every terrorism on steroids and a broken border all right guys good to see you all appreciate it that's all the time we have left this evening back at our normal time 9 Eastern tomorrow stay the Fox News Channel continuing coverage of tonight's presidential debate Trace Gallagher takes it from here have a good evening I'm Trace Gallagher it's midnight on the East Coast 9:00 here in Los Angeles and this is America's late news Fox News at night and breaking tonight there is growing concern this debate was three against one the one being Donald Trump the three being kamla Harris and the two ABC moderators who allowed Harris to run unchecked while consistently factchecking Donald Trump there is no state in this country where it is legal to kill a baby after it's born ABC News did reach out to the city manager there uh he told us there have been no credible reports the Springfield City manager says there's no evidence of that President Trump as you know the FBI says overall violent crime is actually coming down in this country the question was about you as president not about former speaker Pelosi I did watch all of these pieces of video I I didn't detect the sarcasm lost by whisker vice president Harris he says you hate Israel you did bring up something you said she went to negotiate with Vladimir Putin vice president Harris have you ever met Vladimir Putin so just yes or no you still do not have a plan and as you heard yes they even fact check Trump's sarcasm meantime K Harris got away with lie after lie even lies that have long been debunked the detailed and dangerous Plan called project 2025 that the former president intends on implementing couples who pray and and and and dream of having a family are being denied IVF treatments if Donald Trump were to be reelected he will sign a National Abortion ban and what did the president then at the time say there were fine people on each side on that day 140 law enforcement officers were injured and some died the candidate has said in this election there will be a blood bath if this and the outcome of this election is not to his liking but hold tight because we have one hour to bring you live analysis of the debate the media's reaction to the debate and the possibility of yet another debate but we begin with Aisha hosney who's live in the spin room with more on the heated night Aisha good evening Trace good evening to you well the former president actually came out into the spin room surprisingly right after the debate and I asked him multiple times if he would commit to doing a second debate as vice president kamla Harris has called on him to he did not make that commitment tonight on the spin room floor tonight the Trump campaign is claiming Victory but I have to tell you trace that some Republican sources were texting me during the debate performance and they were complaining that the president took the bait from kamla Harris way too often in fact one operative writes this the vice president may be nearly a foot shorter than Donald Trump but she made him look small at the same time these same sources are saying that the moderators the ABC moderators they say were biased Trump was fact checked several times by the moderators including a moment when he was talking about illegal migrants eating household pets now Trump also had a pretty viral moment tonight when he said I'm speaking now to kamla Harris as he was talking about her stance on fracking and the police watch this she was big on defund the police in Minnesota she went out wait a minute I'm talking now you don't mind please does that sound familiar she went out so the Trump campaign is making note that Harris was unable to articulate how she' do anything different than Joe Biden and she also couldn't explain why 20 and disproving this is the proving of what Finance is doing in these years what are you doing here for changing because the money can come from other type of business but the business will never lie to you about what you herings so uh it's very important very important so thank you so much for listening to my words to my video and to everything related to my channel of course uh thank you bye welcome to Lucas sertin this is a brand new video of Finance improving and disproving this is the proving of what Finance is doing in these years what are you doing here for changing because the money can come from other type of business but the business will never lie to you about what are you earings so uh it's very important very important so thank you so much for listening to 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