Because you know what kids are like, mate you coach still you know what they’re like. They need a cuddle now and they need to be just they need massage and helped through and they don't need to be told what to do they need to be told that they’re good. And that's not what we're good at. Coffee on a cold day. Just what we need. Straight out of Tassie. Mr Ayres, how are you mate? Well, Russell, how are you? I’m very well. Cheers. Mate, I’ve got you down here because I want to argue a little bit about the coaching situation in the AFL at the moment. Your old club Sammy Mitchell, the young fella he’s got them up and about at the moment which leads me to think young kids is the way to go with coaching these days you need energy, enthusiasm. Gone are the days of the dinosaur sorry to say mate. They can't do it anymore, you’ve just got young kids coming you reckon? Nah mate, nah I’m dead set against it buddy dead set against it. You only have to look at Only have to look at you. That's right and look at my grey hair. Alastair Clarkson Clearly there was that argy bargy Little bit of dodgy stuff going on. Of course, Alastair had a year out of the caper but then his old club North Melbourne got him. Yeah. And clearly if you look at potentially the American football system. Right. Age is not an issue. Yeah. There's guys that are well in their seventies that are coaching. That’s true. in American football. We don’t have that here, do we? It seems to be though the real trend is let's get a young kid in who understands all the players and gets them up and about because you know what kids are like, mate you coach still you know what they’re like. They need a cuddle now and they need to be just they need massage and helped through and they don't need to be told what to do they need to be told that they’re good. And that's not what we're good at. But I think Russell though when you've been coaching for quite some time you've got that experience and the reason why you keep coaching is because you can change with the times. Tell me about the days back when you were playing what coaches were like. It was all fire and brimstone stuff, wasn’t it? Well, it was to a degree although I had Allan Jeans one of the greatest orators of all time. And of course when he said “jump” you always asked “how high?”. Exactly right. And you had the Reverend, didn’t you? I did and I didn’t call him Rowdy for nothing mate. First game, he screamed so much he broke his voice so I’m thinking this is what the next 10 years is going to be like get me out of here. But now it's not like that it’s the kids, and they’re all. Like your club, Hawks. They’re going really well at the moment and he's young like them and I used to do this just like you and I know the game. I reckon you’re mad if you go and pick up an old dinosaur now Who's on top of the ladder? Sydney Swans. So how long has John Longmire I didn’t know you were going to play that card on me. It looks like he's struggling. But he’s winning games so he should be happy. He should be and I'm sure he's reinvented himself over a long period of time. So I'm pumping up the old ones mate. Well here’s one for you. Tassie team comes in my old stomping ground. Do they pick up a young coach enthusiasm or do they go with an older guy that knows how to set a club up? I think it's the older one because they need someone to help market the club. Right. Someone like Nathan Buckley. Right. Well, I reckon they go with a young guy because they can handle the cold better than old boys do. Because it’s cold down there and you’ll need a thermos and you’ll need a dressing gown. It’s cold mate. Well ‘Bucks’ can get out in the t shirt He looks pretty fit to me. He does too.