pundit said Harris won the debate undecided voters weren't so sure you know this is where we we have to do a little bit of an assumptions check on ourselves right not just you and me but people who work in this business we're so finely attuned to the policy details and the responses that we're hoping for and we also do this for a living we see somebody up there and it's easy for us to say oh but like I would have done this or I would have said that and I think that's normal right New York Times headline though pundit said Harris won the debate undecided voters weren't so sure some of these intangibles Harris with her sort of very stage smirks and looks and and the very clear moderator bias in favor of her and for people who are just tuning in who aren't all over politics I don't know you could say this for him Trump wasn't nasty kamla was a little was a little mean she was a little mean you know we we haven't gotten to this but she was kind of mean