Richard Grenell on NATO's Article 5

on the umbrella do you believe President Trump would be absolutely committed to the Article 5 requirements look you know we get this question all the time and I know where it comes from is is is the question that was asked of him uh you know we only talk about the answer very few people go back to the question the question that President Trump was asking was answering was this what would you say to countries who signed the Wales pledge in 2004 14 to pay 2% but then said no we're not going to do it that there's only one answer if a country literally says we know what the what the rules are but we're going to break the rules and there's nothing you can do about it that was the hypothetical question um my second part is just to Simply say we know exactly what Trump is going to do with NATO because we saw it for four years he didn't leave NATO he made NATO stronger I could sit here and argue that the person who cares more about an organization is the one who wants to fix it get it focused and give it more money and that's exactly what president Trump did he said look it's not great right now you're not focused on the the current threats and and let's get the capabilities issues uh sorted out and and you know the capabilities is is how the 2% is I mean some people people don't quite understand but it's it's to be honest it's kind of like a wedding registry you uh NATO puts out what they need for a war potential war and countries sign up and say yeah we're capable we can do this we'll bring this to the war we'll bring this to the wedding but you got to bring your gift you can't just say uh we think you deserve a toaster and so I'll get that toaster later s in the shopping cart yeah exactly you you've got to actually show up and be able to bring the toaster and so on the capabilities front I think we've got to be very real about who is signing up and are they act actually capable of bringing what they say that they were going to bring and then on on the other issue that President Trump I think was completely focused on was the current threats you know cyber is a big threat right now there's so many other issues and do we think that NATO is is ready to tackle all threats and I think that's a question