so you thought that this was him making it up you didn't believe he actually had the Ambassador under surveillance abolutely I asked Mr parna several times over the course of our interview if those text messages from Robert Hyde indicated a real threat to Ambassador yovanovich I asked him about it as many different angles I could come up with um I was insistent in asking he was adamant in his response so it's clear that you didn't take Mr Hyde seriously terms of the factual claims that he was making but are you clear on whether or not there was ever an actual physical threat or a threat of personal intimidation against Ambassador never for my side or anybody I know you didn't worry that she was actually in physical dang stay connected follow us on YouTube and Twitter and subscribe on Twitter for behindth scenes content special materials and support for democracy get the book Shadow diplomacy