the State Department and Pompeyo have become sort of central figures in the saga of these impeachment proceedings we are gonna go speak with a man who understands the framework and the infrastructure of the State Department [Music] bow shake good boy Philippe Ramos who is known in some circles as Hillary's henchmen in other more official circles he is known as the special advisor to the Secretary of State and in our circles he is known as a straight-talking wizard of the dark arts [Music] I'm sorry is that a robot dog to keep the cat's companion yeah it's a test it's an experiment to see how they react if people never had cats it would soften my reputation I'd be ineffective I mean the truth is that they're the only living beings I actually don't mind being around I wanted to actually talk to you about Pompeo in his capacity as Secretary of State given the fact that you know intimately Mike Pompeo has no capacity to be Secretary of State okay fine we'll start there you understand what it is like to be a secretary of state in Italy Mike Pompeo says yeah I was on the phone call between Trump and Solinsky is that something Secretary of State's do if a world leader was in town Hillary would be at the White House for the meeting if there was a call to say on the lemarchal give me written notes and they would be the equivalent of listening it but people have other things to do to me it sounds like none of them trust Trump and the only way that they can get a sense of what he's saying is to listen the fact that Pompeo is on the call it means that he's known all along he that this is what's transpiring if you watch any interview he's given about this topic it's written all over his face that he's been lying and I'm sure that's not the only call he listens to Trump seems to enjoy Pompeii OHS company yeah it's very possible he says I want Mike in the room and they say you know can we just put him on the phone Pompeyo is essentially a White House staffer working in the State Department a White House strategy that they can just say no when Congress asked anything of the administration without consequence is Pompeii OHS policy at the State Department now to be honest they've gotten away with it now under formal impeachment process the stonewalling itself can be an article in Petri and you could argue it though the devil's advocate would say Oh an impeachable offense Oh big deal the house is gonna pass articles of impeachment the only thing that is a big deal who have faced this not being removed doesn't mean there were no consequences the articles of impeachment that were being drafted and never voted on were part of Nixon's leaving yeah in the trial for Bill Clinton long term I don't think that was great for the Democratic Party it is a believer for Bill Clinton war for Bill Clinton and I don't think Donald Trump is going to just be able to laugh this off first of all the stain of itself is gonna drive him crazy and he has left Congress with no choice but to use this authority because he has said the Democrats won back the house representatives to help [Music] [Music]